WWL Radio tweets homophobic slur about WWL sports reporter Seth Dunlap (2 Viewers)

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So Seth recently posted his personal feelings about Drew’s Focus on the Family appearance. Seems that the WWL tweet is related.

My question is: why did people get offended by what Brees had to say? It seems as though everybody is just sittin' around waiting to get offended these days.
 
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My question is: why did people get offended by what Brees had to say? It seems as though everybody is just sittin' around waiting to get offended these days.
Well, did you read Seth’s letter to Brees?

I’m not going to pretend to know how to answer your question when there’s an answer right there.
 

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Well, did you read Seth’s letter to Brees?

I’m not going to pretend to know how to answer your question when there’s an answer right there.

I remember reading about 2 paragraphs, thinking it was some poorly written whining and closing it. Interestingly enough if you google Seth Dunlap Open letter to Drew Brees now, you get nothing but links about homophobic tweets.
 
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I remember reading about 2 paragraphs, thinking it was some poorly written whining and closing it. Interestingly enough if you google Seth Dunlap Open letter to Drew Brees now, you get nothing but links about homophobic tweets.
Are you talking about Seth’s letter or that op/ed in the Advocate? I agree that wasn’t well done. But Seth’s letter doesn’t appear poorly written.

 

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Well, did you read Seth’s letter to Brees?

I’m not going to pretend to know how to answer your question when there’s an answer right there.
Uhh superchuck, what’s got you thinking a gay man is entitled to speak for himself and not have an imaginary version of himself who exists solely in someone else’s mind speak for him?

Anyway, what he probably said in the letter was “whine whine I can’t wait to destroy the concept of the nuclear family”
 

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My question is: why did people get offended by what Brees had to say? It seems as though everybody is just sittin' around waiting to get offended these days.
I agree that we have a generation of people that are looking to get offended. Sensitivity is at ridiculous levels.

Seth's post on Facebook is essentially saying that he finds it hard to believe that Brees didn't know what FoF was about. I don't care if he did or didn't know. While I don’t think Brees needed to apologize for anything, I believe him in his explanation.

Seth is gay and felt the need to call Brees out and I guess WWL gives him the right to express his own views. I disagree with Seth but WWL calling him a gay on twitter was stupid and childish. I also believe it was intended to be hurtful.

Yesterday, Christian Garick started his show with a statement about it and then went on to do the show with Bobby Hebert. Interestingly, Seth didn’t do his show. He said that he felt overwhelmed and needs time to decompress. Local tv station fox 8 is running with the story and reporting on it at every chance.

Not sure where this is headed but I still think it’s headed for a lawsuit. Seth originally behaved as a person not offended but now, Seth has let it be known that he’s offended. He took off work. He tweeted about being upset. He’s acting like a plaintiff at this point. I expect that Seth is going to leave WWL and will receive a settlement.

We’ll see.
 
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I agree that we have a generation of people that are looking to get offended. Sensitivity is at ridiculous levels.

Seth's post on Facebook is essentially saying that he finds it hard to believe that Brees didn't know what FoF was about. I don't care if he did or didn't know. While I don’t think Brees needed to apologize for anything, I believe him in his explanation.

Seth is gay and felt the need to call Brees out and I guess WWL gives him the right to express his own views. I disagree with Seth but WWL calling him a gay on twitter was stupid and childish.

Yesterday, Christian Garick started his show with a statement about it and then went on to do the show with Bobby Hebert. Interestingly, Seth didn’t do his show. He said that he felt overwhelmed and needs time to decompress. Local tv station fox 8 is running with the story and reporting on it at every chance.

Not sure where this is headed but I still think it’s headed for a lawsuit. Seth originally behaved as a person not offended but now, Seth has let it be known that he’s offended. He took off work. He tweeted about being upset. He’s acting like a plaintiff at this point. I expect that Seth is going to leave WWL and will receive a settlement.

We’ll see.
Unless they find out the tweet was authorized or even posted by a manager - or unless there is other evidence of prejudice, mistreatment, or hostility to Seth or homosexuals in that workplace, a single offensive tweet by an unknown rogue employee followed by an investigation and new security measures isn’t likely to give rise to liability or any kind of exposure that would warrant a settlement.

Maybe Seth isn’t “acting like a plaintiff” - maybe he’s acting like someone who was hurt by someone else’s offensive conduct that targeted him - and it’s gonna take some time to process it. But instead of litigation, maybe he and WWL try to use it to move forward together in a productive way.

We don’t always have to be cynical.
 

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Unless they find out the tweet was authorized or even posted by a manager - or unless there is other evidence of prejudice, mistreatment, or hostility to Seth or homosexuals in that workplace, a single offensive tweet by an unknown rogue employee followed by an investigation and new security measures isn’t likely to give rise to liability or any kind of exposure that would warrant a settlement.

Maybe Seth isn’t “acting like a plaintiff” - maybe he’s acting like someone who was hurt by someone else’s offensive conduct that targeted him - and it’s gonna take some time to process it. But instead of litigation, maybe he and WWL try to use it to move forward together in a productive way.

We don’t always have to be cynical.
It’s the internet. It’s an internet message board. We speculate.
He is ACTING like a plaintiff. Whether he IS a plaintiff is another question. You could be right but if he wants to bring about legal action he needs to initially ACT like a plaintiff.

The night it happened, his non chalance was very UN plaintiff-like. The actions yesterday and last night were very Plaintiff-like.

So in my opinion as an observer, if he wants to take legal action, he needs to behave like a plaintiff. He needs to do what he did yesterday. The actions the prior day undermine that but it’s retrievable.

Also, if he doesn’t want to stay at WWL, which is a distinct possibility, he’s likely to want to go out with some monetary consideration.
 
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It’s the internet. It’s an internet message board. We speculate.
He is ACTING like a plaintiff. Whether he IS a plaintiff is another question. You could be right but if he wants to bring about legal action he needs to initially ACT like a plaintiff.

The night it happened, his non chalance was very UN plaintiff-like. The actions yesterday and last night were very Plaintiff-like.

So in my opinion as an observer, if he wants to take legal action, he needs to behave like a plaintiff. He needs to do what he did yesterday. The actions the prior day undermine that but it’s retrievable.

Also, if he doesn’t want to stay at WWL, which is a distinct possibility, he’s likely to want to go out with some monetary consideration.
Perhaps the night it happened he was shocked by it. Perhaps that kind of thing takes a bit of time to sink in . . . and hurt.

I don't know, I'm a white heterosexual male. I have never had go to through something like that, much less on a public platform that is supposed to be my "home". I imagine that can be difficult to really process . . . and terribly, terribly saddening.

Have you been through a similar episode? Tell us about how you processed it.
 

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I happen to agree with Brown. Looks like he is setting himself up for a pay day.....especially taking time off of work. What better platform to use than your own show to better the cause for gay rights and bring awareness to how hurtful these slurs can be. Instead, he took the time to "decompress". If I were a betting man, it's not the first time he was called a name....and I'm not saying this because he's gay. (sticks and stones saying from childhood). Missing work will give him some leverage on the settlement.
 

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Perhaps the night it happened he was shocked by it. Perhaps that kind of thing takes a bit of time to sink in . . . and hurt.

I don't know, I'm a white heterosexual male. I have never had go to through something like that, much less on a public platform that is supposed to be my "home". I imagine that can be difficult to really process . . . and terribly, terribly saddening.

Have you been through a similar episode? Tell us about how you processed it.
Well, I’m a person that believes that we all have a choice in what, or even if, we get offended. It’s not easy but we have the choice.
We live in a litigious climate though and there is a monetary remedy for being ‘hurt’- emotionally or otherwise. We get groomed to be sensitive. We get groomed to look for reasons to be hurt.

That said- I think Seth has a right to be offended. I also think, as I posted, that WWL intended to embarrass him ie ‘hurt’ him. That is important. “Intent” is a big deal.

Being emotionally hurt IS a choice though.

If Seth wants to make a legal case, he could. His actions of late, lend credibility to his being hurt.
Any plaintiff attorney worth his salt could make a case out of this. I’d be shocked it he hasn’t been called by at least 2 attorneys at this point.

But maybe you’re right and he wants to put it behind him and stick around, working for WWL.

Call me cynical or maybe not even cynical but realistic. It’s just too easy here. He has a good case. He seems to be somewhat of an activist (see Brees article). And it looks like he believes he’s been hurt(missed work, posted on twitter about needing time) . And I disagree with you that the single tweet is not enough. It’s enough. But I’d bet there is more...
So I Expect WWL is going to be sued, they’ll settled and Seth will move on.

I could be wrong.

Ps:Whether I’ve been hurt by someone and how I got through it is immaterial. Fwiw, I’ve had my share of troubled times. I don’t pretend to walk in Seth’s shoes.
 
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I happen to agree with Brown. Looks like he is setting himself up for a pay day.....especially taking time off of work. What better platform to use than your own show to better the cause for gay rights and bring awareness to how hurtful these slurs can be. Instead, he took the time to "decompress". If I were a betting man, it's not the first time he was called a name....and I'm not saying this because he's gay. (sticks and stones saying from childhood). Missing work will give him some leverage on the settlement.
It happened less than 48 hours ago. A working professional who happens to be gay was called a gay on the official public messaging platform of his employer. Have any of us gone through something like that? If not, I don't think we can possibly relate enough to make estimations about what his state of mind actually is at this point.

Honestly, I think saying that none of this is his genuine response and that he's just positioning himself for litigation is, itself, pretty offensive and hurtful. Maybe ya'll are right and I'm just being naive, but I really find that take to be in very poor taste. I'll leave it alone, y'all are certainly entitled that view. I just suspect it's quite a bit more complex emotinally than "sticks and stones" and move on.
 

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