Ex-Astros P Mike Fiers says Astros used center-field camera to steal signs (Update: MLB issues punishment) MERGED

Sure - just like Gregg Williams. Better say what the league tells you or else say goodbye to your livelihood.

Also. You can read all pages of the report, but here's what if fails to mention:

Assuming you're sure there is a curveball coming there is still the challenge of hitting it - keeping it fair, etc. There is an edge, yes; but you have to have skill and talent to be able to do something with that edge. There is a huge probability that "signal stealing" will not help a player who is mediocre at the plate.

And another thing, I'm sick of people comparing this to Pete Rose. When you're the manager of a team (like Rose) and you bet against your own team, there is almost a 100% chance that you will lose - since you then have power to change your entire lineup.

And finally, how many roid head players won championships during the "juiced ball era" and the 80's when players like Canseco were finding ways to slip the shoddy testing protocols?

Astros beat the Dodgers and the Yankees. That's two of the biggest moneymakers on the planet.



No Spygate was just bizarre and I still don't understand it. This is more like bounty gate, where you have almost every team tries to steal signs - just like almost every team had some informal incentive system. Astros are like us. Small market team that doesn't bring in the big bucks. Of course, the more powerful owners are too gutless to attack anybody but the underdog. So the Astros and the Saints both get railroaded if they win.
Dude ??‍♂️. The bias is unreal.

if this happened to the rangers, you would be all over it.

and how the hell are the astros underdogs??? Go somewhere with that