I feel like that first one was maybe a little longer ago than 4 years? And not sure about the second. I'm sure someone in the media will do that timeline soon. But none involved someone getting out and shooting, it was a pure drunk driving situation. But I did hear someone bringing up the memory of the Howard Johnson's sniper shooting of 1973 as a shooting even that had struck wide fear in New Orleans. But I don't see much connection to that.