Vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon St., with 14 fatalities (3 Viewers)

[livefromDC]

'Domestic' is what I assumed the moment she said it. But it certainly would have been best for that word not to be used so early in the investigation. Because the mental impact on people is a lot worse than if she had just used the word 'perpetrator'.

Agree there as well.

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Have only read headlines and a couple of internet comments. Also haven’t been down to Bourbon St (or the Quarter in general) at night in several months.

But, isn’t Bourbon St generally pedestrian only on weekends and for special events? Assuming the perps drove around the barricades (which I assume means they somehow drove up the sidewalk)?

 

[Madmarsha]

Good point, but I'm having trouble seeing anything positive as I didn't hear about it until 30 minutes ago. Not processing yet.
Why are we so damn broken?

Oh, there's nothing positive. I've been monitoring/processing for a little less than 2 hours myself now and that was the first time I'd had that thought about what ages were likely to be involved at that early hour because I wasn't sure at first what time it even did happen.

 

[tjharris]

9 oit of 10 times? What NOLA monster city have created in your mind? Sir, can you show me a story of someone driving drunk in New Orleans plowing through pedestrians then getting out and shooting while there's an explosive device in the vehicle?

For the record, drunk drivers kill pedestrians in every city, not just New OrOrleans

4 years ago and then 2 years ago, I think my timeline may be off a little. A drunk person drove into a crowd during Mardi Gras.

 

[livefromDC]

4 years ago and then 2 years ago, I think my timeline may be off a little. A drunk person drove into a crowd during Mardi Gras.

And then started shooting?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Where was the reporting that the victims were mostly local?

 

[Hubig]

Have only read headlines and a couple of internet comments. Also haven’t been down to Bourbon St (or the Quarter in general) at night in several months.

But, isn’t Bourbon St generally pedestrian only on weekends and for special events? Assuming the perps drove around the barricades (which I assume means they somehow drove up the sidewalk)?

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

 

[Madmarsha]

But, isn’t Bourbon St generally pedestrian only on weekends and for special events? Assuming the perps drove around the barricades (which I assume means they somehow drove up the sidewalk)?

Going to have to be one of the things investigated. Some are saying he "plowed" through but there was some talk by one of the reporters that it was not confirmed whether the bollard in question was actually raised or lowered at the time.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

Police chief indicated he drove around the barricades which I assume meant he went over the corner sidewalk

 

[Madmarsha]

Where was the reporting that the victims were mostly local?

Dunno where they got the info but it was a local saying it. Honestly I have no idea given that likely the identification of the deceased is still ongoing (the coroner's vehicles are still there).

 

[Cage1]

Condolences to the city right now. Our statistical outliers can do untold damage to the rest of us with the technology we have at our ready disposal.

When a driver plows into a crowd it is either usually alcohol or terrorism. When they get out shooting it closes any questions.

I can’t agree with this. All sober violence isn’t terroristic. Terrorists use violence to instill fear for some form of policy change. Their target is the survivors. The third category is just plain loons. The Columbine kids weren’t worried about what the survivors did, they just wanted to take lives. That’s what most of these are really. Category 3: the mentally ill. Maybe this guy had a manifesto or cause of some sort, but my guess is he was just mentally broken and people in the wrong place wrong time were collateral damage to his suicide.

 

[tjharris]

And then started shooting?

Drunks are a way bigger problem for this city than terrorism.
Buy I guess you don't know since you ain't here

 

[livefromDC]

Drunks are a way bigger problem for this city than terrorism.
Buy I guess you don't know since you ain't here

Again, drunks are a way bigger problem for every city versus terrorism, but they don't look alike.

 

[Madmarsha]

4 years ago and then 2 years ago, I think my timeline may be off a little. A drunk person drove into a crowd during Mardi Gras.

I feel like that first one was maybe a little longer ago than 4 years? And not sure about the second. I'm sure someone in the media will do that timeline soon. But none involved someone getting out and shooting, it was a pure drunk driving situation. But I did hear someone bringing up the memory of the Howard Johnson's sniper shooting of 1973 as a shooting even that had struck wide fear in New Orleans. But I don't see much connection to that.