Vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon St., with 14 fatalities (73 Viewers)

[guidomerkinsrules]

Where was the reporting that the victims were mostly local?

 

[Hubig]

Have only read headlines and a couple of internet comments. Also haven’t been down to Bourbon St (or the Quarter in general) at night in several months.

But, isn’t Bourbon St generally pedestrian only on weekends and for special events? Assuming the perps drove around the barricades (which I assume means they somehow drove up the sidewalk)?

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

 

[Madmarsha]

But, isn’t Bourbon St generally pedestrian only on weekends and for special events? Assuming the perps drove around the barricades (which I assume means they somehow drove up the sidewalk)?

Going to have to be one of the things investigated. Some are saying he "plowed" through but there was some talk by one of the reporters that it was not confirmed whether the bollard in question was actually raised or lowered at the time.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

Police chief indicated he drove around the barricades which I assume meant he went over the corner sidewalk

 

[Madmarsha]

Where was the reporting that the victims were mostly local?

Dunno where they got the info but it was a local saying it. Honestly I have no idea given that likely the identification of the deceased is still ongoing (the coroner's vehicles are still there).

 

[Cage1]

Condolences to the city right now. Our statistical outliers can do untold damage to the rest of us with the technology we have at our ready disposal.

When a driver plows into a crowd it is either usually alcohol or terrorism. When they get out shooting it closes any questions.

I can’t agree with this. All sober violence isn’t terroristic. Terrorists use violence to instill fear for some form of policy change. Their target is the survivors. The third category is just plain loons. The Columbine kids weren’t worried about what the survivors did, they just wanted to take lives. That’s what most of these are really. Category 3: the mentally ill. Maybe this guy had a manifesto or cause of some sort, but my guess is he was just mentally broken and people in the wrong place wrong time were collateral damage to his suicide.

 

[tjharris]

And then started shooting?

Drunks are a way bigger problem for this city than terrorism.
Buy I guess you don't know since you ain't here

 

[livefromDC]

Drunks are a way bigger problem for this city than terrorism.
Buy I guess you don't know since you ain't here

Again, drunks are a way bigger problem for every city versus terrorism, but they don't look alike.

 

[Madmarsha]

4 years ago and then 2 years ago, I think my timeline may be off a little. A drunk person drove into a crowd during Mardi Gras.

I feel like that first one was maybe a little longer ago than 4 years? And not sure about the second. I'm sure someone in the media will do that timeline soon. But none involved someone getting out and shooting, it was a pure drunk driving situation. But I did hear someone bringing up the memory of the Howard Johnson's sniper shooting of 1973 as a shooting even that had struck wide fear in New Orleans. But I don't see much connection to that.

 

[Madmarsha]

Question: Given that the person's license plate was apparently from Texas, would that also automatically necessitate the FBI involvement whether "terrorism" or not?

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

I guess that makes some sense as you have to roll street cleaners, trash collection trucks, food/beverage suppliers for restaurants and bars as well as pest control services (yes some establishments do actually contract with them). But, those entry and exit points really should be monitored more closely during that time of night/morning if that’s the case.

 

[Madmarsha]

Condolences to the city right now. Our statistical outliers can do untold damage to the rest of us with the technology we have at our ready disposal.



I can’t agree with this. All sober violence isn’t terroristic. Terrorists use violence to instill fear for some form of policy change. Their target is the survivors. The third category is just plain loons. The Columbine kids weren’t worried about what the survivors did, they just wanted to take lives. That’s what most of these are really. Category 3: the mentally ill. Maybe this guy had a manifesto or cause of some sort, but my guess is he was just mentally broken and people in the wrong place wrong time were collateral damage to his suicide.

He's reportedly dead and IF his vehicle was his personal one registered to him, we should soon at least have an ID.

 

[Madmarsha]

Spoke to someone who used to work these big event crowds down there. Said they sometimes remove barricades for the night past a certain point, if this happened deep into the hours of the night, those may have been "picked up" for the day.

This is what I'm thinking as the time was 3:20. Sure there were still people out but probably much less than closer to midnight.

 

[Madmarsha]

WDSU interviewing Councilman Freddie King outside of University Medical Center right now. Seems to think right now there may be more involved (not sure how credible that is). He also briefly brought up the Howard Johnson's shooting of 51 years ago (which I think he's way too young to even remember). The bollard info is still not clear. There's also construction till going on at 700 and 800 blocks of Bourbon. He praised NOPD. Has not spoken to either of the officers.

 

[Madmarsha]

(yes some establishments do actually contract with them).

#fakenews. This is the French Quarter. Let's be real. lol