Fukushima Spiking All of a Sudden (1 Viewer)

I dont recall saying that half lives were dangerous. Do you? You failed to grasp what I was saying and instead twisted into nothingness. My statements were cut and dry. I said Cesium was amazing because THAT is the radiation being emitted from the nuclear facility with a half life of 30 yrs. That means DONT GO TO THAT FACILITY FOR 30 YEARS!!! Got it? Great! You took my sentences out fo context. There is no misconception in what I said. Taking it out of context like you have made a misconception on your part. I mention that something thats destructive that lasts for 30 yrs.... and you say, heres somethign that last much longer but has yet to have an impact like Cesium is having at the moment.

Hey cool hand luke - just stay down man
 
Let's see, radiation at least 150 times the safe limit is leaking into the environment and no one can explain it. So let's bash the picture and slam the article rather than face the facts...

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This article may be inaccurate, but is it also false that the various governments of the world continue to raise the "healthy" levels of radiation exposure in an attempt to downplay the increase in levels from Fukashima and other events? Serious question. I've heard this before and wondered if true...
 
Please feel free to post something from a credible site.

Steam rising from Japan's destroyed Fukushima nuclear power plant - World News

The latest findings underscore the difficulties Tepco is facing in trying to keep the ravaged plant under control. About a week ago a huge spike in radioactive cesium was detected in groundwater 25 meters from the sea.
The operator has been flushing water over the damaged reactors to keep them cool for more than two years, but contaminated water has been building up at the rate of an Olympic-size swimming pool per week.
In April, Tepco warned it may run out of space to store the water and asked for approval to channel what it has described groundwater with low levels of radiation around the plant and to the sea through a "bypass". Local fishermen oppose the proposal.
 
The image in that link isn't the radiation spread; it is the energy of the tsunami. That's either a huge mistake or blatant misrepresentation.
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I'm betting on a blatant misrepresentation from a biased source. But, at least we know Fox News isn't the only biased news source in the world.
 
I'm betting on a blatant misrepresentation from a biased source. But, at least we know Fox News isn't the only biased news source in the world.

It's not about the picture. It is about the fact that nuclear power is not safe because no matter how hard we try we are insignificant compared to nature. And given our limited ability to construct for every eventuality, we need to not build power plants that will cause such widespread and long term damage.
 
It's not about the picture. It is about the fact that nuclear power is not safe because no matter how hard we try we are insignificant compared to nature. And given our limited ability to construct for every eventuality, we need to not build power plants that will cause such widespread and long term damage.
No form of energy is safe then. Also, the "damage" from this accident doesn't appear to be very widespread.
 
No form of energy is safe then. Also, the "damage" from this accident doesn't appear to be very widespread.

Not 100% safe, but there are much safer technologies available and we should develop those to wean ourselves.
 
It's not about the picture. It is about the fact that nuclear power is not safe because no matter how hard we try we are insignificant compared to nature. And given our limited ability to construct for every eventuality, we need to not build power plants that will cause such widespread and long term damage.

That is certainly the point that the biased source wants to make and clearly the point you wanted to make. And, the reason that they used a misleading photo. Certainly, a discussion needs to be made about the advantages and dangers of nuclear power, but your blanket rejection of it is frankly foolish.

And we are not insignificant compared to nature. We are nature. Humans are animals we are part of nature and whatever we do is by definition part of nature.
 
No form of energy is safe then. Also, the "damage" from this accident doesn't appear to be very widespread.

But those facts, unlike the misleading photo, don't fit into Expatriate's agenda. So we should just ignore them and assume what he is saying must be true.
 
Not 100% safe, but there are much safer technologies available and we should develop those to wean ourselves.

We should develop all alternative energy sources as well as all the traditional ones. We should look at coal, cold fusion, fission, solar, hydrogen, bio-diesel, etc.
 
is industry nature?

We created it. So, it is natural in that sense. It is not "nature" in the sense that we generally mean the word. But, it is part of nature just like a beaver damn is part of nature. And, honestly, the constant references by fringe groups talking about "ravaging the planet", talking about the planet as if it is a living thing and talking about humans as some sort of invasive species on the hide of "mother Earth" are a major problems in the environmentalist movement.

The focus should be on keeping the think inhabitable for humans and keeping it in a condition for us to live on it. To quote Joe Strummer, "please save us not the whales." Alarmist articles like the one above don't really help move us to a society that responsibly uses resources and explores alternative energy.
 

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