COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.] (6 Viewers)

[xpuma20x]

Technology is a positive part of the equation but learning is also a psychological-social exercise, and I think some of the pro-opening folks are highlighting that in addition to inequitable tech access.

I completely agree that there is more to learning than just sitting in front of a computer. However, the #1 thing on every educator's mind, before it even gets time to learn something, is the safety of the children in their school. You can not move forward to step 2 of education until that part is assured.

 

[Goatman Saint]

Oh and one last thing to add. Who do you believe anymore? I mean we have messages still ranging from it’s a made up farce to papers about long term brain and lung damage even in milder cases. Epic mess right now.

 

[0rion]

Technology is a positive part of the equation but learning is also a psychological-social exercise, and I think some of the pro-opening folks are highlighting that in addition to inequitable tech access.

I get the social side of it. However I don't think 6 months is an excessive amount of time when you account for what's at stake. Very few kids will trade 6 months of being social at school for the life of a parent and potentially that's what we're gambling with here.

 

[Goatman Saint]

It’s also an insult to kids that they can’t possibly exist and be ok if they don’t have what we consider “normal”. My home schooled nieces and nephews are fine. The small Christian school that my sons friend went to does all distance learning with teachers on computer, he never sat In a room with a certificated teacher. He was normal socially, of course his actual education was terrible. I guess I have more faith in kids than most. With all the ways to interact now they will be just fine.

Or they can be scanned in a gateway, made to wear a mask, sit 6 feet away from everyone, not eat lunch in the cafeteria, have very limited interactions, be escorted to the restrooms, have a bubble for recess. Is this really better? Really?

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

This would be a great time to completely restructure our system to class sizes of 10 or less.

spend a few hundred billion building more classrooms and paying teachers a little better to bring people back to the field.

and keep it that was when covid is gone.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[St. Geezy]

All the new Global Studies on Schools outside the US suggest keeping schools closed this Fall is senseless / not based in science, and that decision for the US needs to have politics taken out of the equation....

Based on the Science, Schools need to re-open.

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However, as weeks turned into months, pediatricians and educators began to voice concern that school closures were doing more harm than good, especially as evidence mounted that children rarely develop severe symptoms from COVID-19.

Continued closures risk “scarring the life chances of a generation of young people,” according to an open letter published this month and signed by more than 1500 members of the United Kingdom’s Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH). Virtual education is often a pale shadow of the real thing and left many parents juggling jobs and childcare. Lower-income children who depend on school meals were going hungry. And there were hints that children were suffering increased abuse, now that school staff could no longer spot and report early signs of it. It was time, a growing chorus said, to bring children back to school.

When Science looked at reopening strategies from South Africa to Finland to Israel, some encouraging patterns emerged. Together, they suggest a combination of keeping student groups small and requiring masks and some social distancing helps keep schools and communities safe, and that younger children rarely spread the virus to one another or bring it home.

Several studies have found that overall, people under age 18 are between one-third and one-half as likely as adults to contract the virus, and the risk appears lowest for the youngest children.

In six elementary schools, they found a total of three children who had caught the virus, likely from family members, and then attended school while infected. But, as far as the researchers could tell, those younger children didn’t pass the virus on to any close contacts.

School openings across globe suggest ways to keep coronavirus at bay, despite outbreaks
Science explores reopening strategies from South Africa to Finland to Israel

www.sciencemag.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...86aff4-afb6-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-don-t-spread-coronavirus-french-study-shows

Similar to the football discussion, people tend to dumb these conversations down to the party least likely to die. With football, it's the players, and with school, it's the kids.

What about the coaching staffs, referees, trainers, etc. that have people over the age of 55?

In the case of school, what about the teachers, office faculty, cafeteria workers, etc.?

 

[Goatman Saint]

This would be a great time to completely restructure our system to class sizes of 10 or less.

spend a few hundred billion building more classrooms and paying teachers a little better to bring people back to the field.

and keep it that was when covid is gone.

I want to live in this fantasy world

 

[Goatman Saint]

Similar to the football discussion, people tend to dumb these conversations down to the party least likely to die. With football, it's the players, and with school, it's the kids.

What about the coaching staffs, referees, trainers, etc. that have people over the age of 55?

In the case of school, what about the teachers, office faculty, cafeteria workers, etc.?

At my school 11/47 certificated people are over 53. Exactly 2 of us regularly exercise. At least 4 have diabetes. A good 1/3 of the staff has high blood pressure. Support staff is all generally overweight significantly and early 50s at the youngest as they’ve all been there longer than me at 48. Our councilor is a Covid death waiting to happen.

 

[No2DC]

At my school 11/47 certificated people are over 53. Exactly 2 of us regularly exercise. At least 4 have diabetes. A good 1/3 of the staff has high blood pressure. Support staff is all generally overweight significantly and early 50s at the youngest as they’ve all been there longer than me at 48. Our councilor is a Covid death waiting to happen.

I think this is something that is rarely discussed when it comes to schools re-opening. What is the mean age of K-12 teachers and college professors? When you account for underlying conditions + age it's not a pretty picture.

 

[Dan in Lafayette]

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

Hearing rumors that LA and Orleans will be rolling back to Phase I or something like that....

 

[bonnjer]

A teacher was being interviewed last night on CNN. She said, “What happens when the teacher gets sick? It is hard enough to get a substitute teacher when there isn’t a pandemic, now it will be even harder.”

Another question - are you getting docked sick days if you have to be quarantined?

 

[bonnjer]

Scientists warn of potential wave of COVID-linked brain damage

Scientists warned on Wednesday of a potential wave of coronavirus-related brain damage as new evidence suggested COVID-19 can lead to severe neurological complications, including inflammation, psychosis and delirium.

www.reuters.com

Seriously....what the hell is this bug? Other Ronas don't come with all this stuff, do they?

 

[xpuma20x]

Another question - are you getting docked sick days if you have to be quarantined?

Yes as of right now at least.