Saints met with QB Shedeur Sanders [Deion Sanders ok with Saints drafting Shedeur]

[Hubig]

Daniel Jeremiah was on the Rich Eisen show yesterday and pretty much said he see's Sanders either being taken by the Raiders or Saints if he falls to 9. Said that he would fit well with Kellen Moore.

 

[DSnfla]

If Sanders is there @ 9 that means more than likely Carter, Graham,T-Mac, Jeanty and maybe Warren are gone. If so I'm taking the best offer to trade down we can get. Even if we only get an extra 2nd and 3rd. Sanders will be a bust.

 

[St. Widge]

I don't really think cherry picking plays like Orlovsky does in this video proves anything about Sanders. But, it is clear that Orlovsky really likes Sanders. And, we know that Kellen Moore is close to Orlovsky. Could this mean that Moore has similar opinions about Sanders? I don't know, but it is interesting to think about.



I'm not a big fan of Sanders as I think his ceiling is somewhere a bit better than Carr and in the Dak range. But if he turns out better than Carr, then that's a QB you can win with. I also have some concerns about the character and work ethic of a QB that grew up with everything and has always played on teams where his dad was the HC or OC, but I don't know Sanders so maybe he has great character and work ethic. I also think his floor is probably around Carr's level or a little worse.

Anyway, I think I might be at the point where I would be okay taking Sanders at #9. I would rather trade down and get him late in the first or early in the 2nd, but if the Saints think he's a QB that can be as good as or better than Carr at a much cheaper price for 5 years, then maybe it's worth it to reach for him a bit.

I would prefer to take Graham, Carter, Ward, Warren, Will Johnson, or Jalon Walker, but if Moore likes Sanders and thinks he's going to be Carr level or better then I would get the pick at #9.

 

[St. Widge]

If Sanders is there @ 9 that means more than likely Carter, Graham,T-Mac, Jeanty and maybe Warren are gone. If so I'm taking the best offer to trade down we can get. Even if we only get an extra 2nd and 3rd. Sanders will be a bust.

I doubt Sanders will be a bust. He's had the best possible coaching since he was a kid and has learned the game since he was a kid. He will also know what it takes to make it in the NFL. I have some concerns about whether he has the work ethic since he grew up with everything, but I think his bust potential is very low because of who his dad is and how he was likely raised.

 

[StudioSaint]

I don't really think cherry picking plays like Orlovsky does in this video proves anything about Sanders. But, it is clear that Orlovsky really likes Sanders. And, we know that Kellen Moore is close to Orlovsky. Could this mean that Moore has similar opinions about Sanders? I don't know, but it is interesting to think about.



I'm not a big fan of Sanders as I think his ceiling is somewhere a bit better than Carr and in the Dak range. But if he turns out better than Carr, then that's a QB you can win with. I also have some concerns about the character and work ethic of a QB that grew up with everything and has always played on teams where his dad was the HC or OC, but I don't know Sanders so maybe he has great character and work ethic. I also think his floor is probably around Carr's level or a little worse.

Anyway, I think I might be at the point where I would be okay taking Sanders at #9. I would rather trade down and get him late in the first or early in the 2nd, but if the Saints think he's a QB that can be as good as or better than Carr at a much cheaper price for 5 years, then maybe it's worth it to reach for him a bit.

I would prefer to take Graham, Carter, Ward, Warren, Will Johnson, or Jalon Walker, but if Moore likes Sanders and thinks he's going to be Carr level or better then I would get the pick at #9.

Just joking, but maybe this evaluation by Orlovsky is one of the reasons Moore didn't hire him for the Saints QB coaching staff.

 

[ReefGuy]

Whoever drafts Sanders as their QB of the future will be drafting another QB in the very near future.

 

[Dome50]

I definitely didn't watch Sanders play much in college but was just looking at his stats. Obviously a talented passer....but he had -50 yards on 100 rushing attempts last season? He seems pretty mobile so that was really surprising to me. Do we want a guy who has no ability to run the ball? Was he sacked so many times that it negated all running yardage?

 

[St. Widge]

I definitely didn't watch Sanders play much in college but was just looking at his stats. Obviously a talented passer....but he had -50 yards on 100 rushing attempts last season? He seems pretty mobile so that was really surprising to me. Do we want a guy who has no ability to run the ball? Was he sacked so many times that it negated all running yardage?

Sack yardage is subtracted from rushing yards for QBs in college and he had a lot of sacks in college. They don't do that in the NFL.

My impression of Sanders is that he is not a running QB, but he does have some speed and quickness so he can take the easy yards and is pretty mobile in the pocket.

I'd prefer a more mobile QB, but I think Sanders is mobile enough to buy time for off schedule throws and he's pretty decent at those throws so I don't think he is so immobile that it's a problem. But the number of sacks is a concern. He had a bad OL, but it's hard to know how many sacks were just due to him failing to get the ball out on time.

But, yeah, 70% plus completion percentage with lots of TDs and very few interceptions is hard to argue with.

 

[Booker]

Sack yardage is subtracted from rushing yards for QBs in college and he had a lot of sacks in college. They don't do that in the NFL.

My impression of Sanders is that he is not a running QB, but he does have some speed and quickness so he can take the easy yards and is pretty mobile in the pocket.

I'd prefer a more mobile QB, but I think Sanders is mobile enough to buy time for off schedule throws and he's pretty decent at those throws so I don't think he is so immobile that it's a problem. But the number of sacks is a concern. He had a bad OL, but it's hard to know how many sacks were just due to him failing to get the ball out on time.

But, yeah, 70% plus completion percentage with lots of TDs and very few interceptions is hard to argue with.

Yeah, he's athletic enough to move around in the pocket, but he's a pocket passer first and foremost, not a 'dual threat' type quarterback. And they did have protection issues while he was at CU, but I do think he also holds the ball too long.

 

[St. Widge]

Yeah, he's athletic enough to move around in the pocket, but he's a pocket passer first and foremost, not a 'dual threat' type quarterback. And they did have protection issues while he was at CU, but I do think he also holds the ball too long.

I've probably watched him play 7 or 8 times in two years. My general impression of him is that he is a game manager who doesn't do dumb things, but he's also not the kind of guy that is going to take over a game. Which is why I tend to think he's never going to be elite, but I do think he's got a shot to fit into that Dak, Purdy, Mayfield, Goff, Herbert range. Could be a bit better or a bit worse but he's not going to be an elite QB that takes over games.

You can win with that kind of guy if you build the right team around them. Which is easier to to with a QB on a rookie contract.

 

[Darth Deuce]

Yeah, he's athletic enough to move around in the pocket, but he's a pocket passer first and foremost, not a 'dual threat' type quarterback. And they did have protection issues while he was at CU, but I do think he also holds the ball too long.

From the few games I watched, this seemed to be his main issue with the sacks. He scrambled so long waiting for someone to get open. He seemed to hate throwing the ball away when nothing was there.

 

[St. Widge]

From the few games I watched, this seemed to be his main issue with the sacks. He scrambled so long waiting for someone to get open. He seemed to hate throwing the ball away when nothing was there.

On the bright side, he didn't tend to throw interceptions after doing that, but he does need to learn to either get rid of the ball faster or throw it away in some situations.

 

[killerdescore]

It wouldn't be smart to take a QB this high in this draft with that many holes in the roster.
No.

 

[TruSaint]

No no no. His wind up takes an hour and I watched him underthrow Hunter all season and get dominated by higher competition.