According to Pro-Football-Reference, Drew Brees Approximate Value 8th All time among all NFL players. (1 Viewer)

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Drew Brees Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Not just QB. That is damn impressive. This is a stat that takes into account just about everything a QB does and how much his value is worth. He's 2nd among active players with Brady just barely ahead.

To put into perspective just how good Brees has been and how the talking heads continue to underrate him? Aaron Rodgers is 58th all time. They take into account things like sack% and game winning drives. To put it frankly, while Rodgers may not turn the ball over like Brees does, he still accounts for a ton of drives ended with terrible sacks. He's also incredibly bad historically with game -winning drives ranking 73rd all time while Brees is 7th. As a matter of fact, it looks like Rodgers has never beat a team with a winning record that is ahead of his team in the 4th QT. A whopping 0-36? I could be wrong but someone is welcome to do more research.

AV rankings:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Brett Favre (people still underrate him for reasons I have no idea. Too bad people only think of him as interceptions but Brett Favre for a decade was damn near unstoppable)
3. Jerry Rice
4. Tom Brady
5. Frank Tarkenton
6. Reggie White
7. Bruce Smith
8. Drew Brees
9. Ray Lewis
10. Dan Marino
58. Aaron Rodgers.


AV isn't the end all be all but we Saints fans know just how good he's been.
 
Think Brees and Tark should switch spots. Tarkenton played in a different era of course but was an interception machine.

In fact, Tarkenton and Favre both had 6 seasons where they threw as many, or more, INTs as they did TDs. Brees had one. And it wasn't with us.
 
Without Joe Montana, this list seems slightly incomplete to me. I know the argument will be that Montana was a "system quarterback," and if that's the case, then Tom Brady may be called into question as well.
 
Drew Brees Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Not just QB. That is damn impressive. This is a stat that takes into account just about everything a QB does and how much his value is worth. He's 2nd among active players with Brady just barely ahead.

To put into perspective just how good Brees has been and how the talking heads continue to underrate him? Aaron Rodgers is 150th all time. They take into account things like sack% and game winning drives. To put it frankly, while Rodgers may not turn the ball over like Brees does, he still accounts for a ton of drives ended with terrible sacks. He's also incredibly bad historically with game -winning drives ranking 73rd all time while Brees is 7th. As a matter of fact, it looks like Rodgers has never beat a team with a winning record that his ahead of his team in the 4th QT.

AV rankings:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Brett Favre (people still underrate him for reasons I have no idea. Too bad people only think of him as interceptions but Brett Favre for a decade was damn near unstoppable)
3. Jerry Rice
4. Tom Brady
5. Frank Tarkenton
6. Reggie White
7. Bruce Smith
8. Drew Brees
9. Ray Lewis
10. Dan Marino
150. Aaron Rodgers.


AV isn't the end all be all but we Saints fans know just how good he's been.

Great post and thanks. I have followed the NFL since 1967 and this feels about right.
 
From what I understand of the formula it also includes Pro Bowls and HoF Induction, so his number will probably go up after retirement.

My personal top 10 would include...

Joe Green
Merlin Olsen
and Night Train Lane
 
Incomplete list for top 10, where is:

Eric Dickerson might have had the best speed to size ratio of any RB that has ever played in the NFL. No guy that big should have been as fast as he was.

Gale Sayers might have been the shiftiest RB, but he wasn't very big... and didn't have a long career.

Emmitt Smith was a straight ahead power runner who didn't have great size either.

Tony Dorsett could outrun everybody, but wasn't big.

Jim Brown was big but was not a speed merchant. Brown appeared to run TOWARD defenders instead of toward holes (since he was a FB he made his own holes running through defenders).

I realize this is a digression from the original subject, but the mention of Eric Dickerson got me thinking.

Walter Payton seemingly had everything, but he didn't have great size either.
 
The longer ago they played the less credit they get.

Gotta have Montana. Same with Jim Brown.
Deacon Jones
Johnny Unitas, c'mon! Johnny Unitas! The guy had icewater in his veins.
Was their ever a better defensive back than Ronnie Lott?

Ah well, gives us something to talk about while we wait.
 
Incomplete list for top 10, where is:

Well, you can only have a top 10. We could get into the 50+ players all saying "where are they?" But in the end of the day it's a top 10 in a league that has over 50 greats. Phenomenal players will be left off.
 
The longer ago they played the less credit they get.

Gotta have Montana. Same with Jim Brown.
Deacon Jones
Johnny Unitas, c'mon! Johnny Unitas! The guy had icewater in his veins.
Was their ever a better defensive back than Ronnie Lott?

Ah well, gives us something to talk about while we wait.

It has Frank. He played in the 60's and 70's man.

Like I said. It's a top 10 list. You can only fit 10 people on there.
 

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