Former NFL Quarterback [Chris Simms] Ranks Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson Among Top 40 QBs (1 Viewer)

[liveoakh]

https://kslsports.com/462425/former-nfl-quarterback-ranks-taysom-hill-zach-wilson-among-top-40-qbs/​

Apparently, Chris Simms hunger for pain and humiliation, goes unsated. Ranking Zach Wilson at # 27 ahead of Trevor Lawrence #28. Zach Wilson came into the draft with more boom or bust potential then any of the top 5 QBs coming out in 2020. You could say Lance, but him being from a small college was already baked in. I feel bad for Wilson, he had many head winds againest him going into the draft. Then the JETS came knocking, and sealed his fate. (BUST) Change my mind!

2020/2019 Zach Wilson played 6 ranked teams, and beat 2, his best wins were #14 Bosie St. #24 USC

2020/2019 Trevor Lawrence Beat #1 Alabama #3 Notre Dame #2 Ohio State #24 Virgina #18 Miami #4 Notre Dame (again)

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[BELOWSEALEVEL]

I liked Zach Wilson of all the qbs in this class. I think his style will transition the best.

 

[football]

I liked Zach Wilson of all the qbs in this class. I think his style will transition the best.

I said during the draft that if teams is looking for the next Mahomes, then he is the closest of all the drafted qb

 

[BELOWSEALEVEL]

I said during the draft that if teams is looking for the next Mahomes, then he is the closest of all the drafted qb

It's up to the Jets to ruin him like all others qbs in their system maybe we can trade for him in 4 years

 

[breesgirl]

I hate when players who’ve never played one NFL snap are ranked alongside vets.

It’s one thing to have a separate rookie only list projecting how they may fare on the pro level. It’s quite another to say they’ll be heads and shoulders above men who’ve already adjusted to the game’s speed.

Being a hotshot in college has never guaranteed being exceptional in the NFL- especially when it comes to QB’s.

Sorry for the rant, but I had to get that off my chest.

 

[UFCSaint]

I hate when players who’ve never played one NFL snap are ranked alongside vets.

It’s one thing to have a separate rookie only list projecting how they may fare on the pro level. It’s quite another to say they’ll be heads and shoulders above men who’ve already adjusted to the game’s speed.

Being a hotshot in college has never guaranteed being exceptional in the NFL- especially when it comes to QB’s.

Sorry for the rant, but I had to get that off my chest.

You mean like Heath Shuler?

 

[parlorcitysaint]

Why do you people insist on clicking on a link that has the words "Chris Simms"?

The man's an idiot. He's PROVEN that he's an idiot. If you check the dictionary for "idiot", I'm pretty sure you'll find his picture...

Heck, the only reason I'm IN this thread is because OP used the phrase "former quarterback" instead of "Chris Simms".

 

[EGLSShin]

Should be a written rule to have to put chris simms in the thread title so people know not to click on it

 

[RebSaint]

I don't know why anybody takes this clown seriously. It seems like he's attempting to "NeXt LeVeL TrOlL" a la Jim Rome or Colin Cowherd to get a better gig.

 

[SRAddict]

Wilson’s mom alone puts him in the top 30

 

[Jesse Custer]

Where he's got Justin Herbert is borderline criminal. If he'd had a team that could hold onto a lead, Herbert would've been in the MVP conversation last season. Been a LONG time since I've seen a rookie come in and play like a 10-year vet like that. He was unbelievable.

 

[BroKV]

Murray @ 7th

 

[LoE]

I thought I would care. I clicked on the link. I read the article.

But I was wrong. I don't care what Chris Simms thinks.

 

[Saint Kamara]

https://kslsports.com/462425/former-nfl-quarterback-ranks-taysom-hill-zach-wilson-among-top-40-qbs/​

Apparently, Chris Simms hunger for pain and humiliation, goes unsated. Ranking Zach Wilson at # 27 ahead of Trevor Lawrence #28. Zach Wilson came into the draft with more boom or bust potential then any of the top 5 QBs coming out in 2020. You could say Lance, but him being from a small college was already baked in. I feel bad for Wilson, he had many head winds againest him going into the draft. Then the JETS came knocking, and sealed his fate. (BUST) Change my mind!

2020/2019 Zach Wilson played 6 ranked teams, and beat 2, his best wins were #14 Bosie St. #24 USC

2020/2019 Trevor Lawrence Beat #1 Alabama #3 Notre Dame #2 Ohio State #24 Virgina #18 Miami #4 Notre Dame (again)

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I don't get the hype of Trevor Lawrence.

He's played in 4 big games in his career.

He was good vs Alabama, just ok against Ohio State in 2019, terrible vs LSU, and subpar vs Ohio State in 2020.

That's not a great track record.

He feasted against extremely inferior competition in the ACC. That's his claim to fame.

 

[Groovepro]

I think Simms gets caught in "hot takes" on most other evaluations that aren't QB. I am not a Simms homer, because of the other aspects of "shock takes" and such, but he has not been bad at his evaluations for QB over the last few years. What I LIKE about his lists is he gives insight to WHY they are ranked. He doesn't go by sheer stats and puts them in order of W's and stats on a spreadsheet. I might not agree with some of his placements of players, but I can see where he came from. He gives a reason for each. Other people take his list and provide their own narrative and I think that gets lost since is taking away the "HOW and WHY". He goes by value to the team, intangibles, the team/system and his take on their progress, potential and such. No one liked his grade of 2020 for Brees, but when I read it, he did so based on not knowing how long he would be playing, declining arm strength, health, etc. He placed him at #15, which I thought was low, but it is factored in with who was ahead of them and how will they rate relative. Low and behold, Brees ended up being VERY injured, missed games and retired. He has had Brady lower than people expect, but there are factors and there is a method to his madness.

If he just stuck to QB and even WR analysis, I think he wouldn't get as much "push back" as he has had.

I agree that rookies really shouldn't be in that list, but if they are going to be playing, fair enough to try to assess where they could be and what there worth/value is in that team. He does move his narrative a bit with some players and one argument for one sometimes doesn't hold for another, but usually he seems to try to stay on his own point and model. Some is based on potential and inner workings of the team and some for what they actually mean to the team and how important they are in the W column. A game manager who doesn't make mistakes and doesn't LOSE with talent around them and a great organization vs a player who can almost WILL a team to win with meager talent around them will get the higher nod, even if worse stats and not as many W's....usually. It is not science and not all I agree with, but I can see where he is coming from on many of his projections or opinion.

As I said, I might not agree with all he says, but at least he gives some decent insight to WHY he ranked them a certain way and it is worth a read on all the picks due to that...not just read a copy/pasted list with another journalist adding their spin or other copy/pasted content around the list.

I know most just hate him regardless and don't like anything he says...LOL. I think he has made some pretty fair takes on QB's, even if I am leaning a different direction. ...and NO, it has nothing to do with him having Hill one spot over Winston...LOL.

When it comes to general sports analysis, he isn't my fave, but for QB's, he is definitely not the worst out there and provides insight from someone who played the position. Some QB's just played and played great, but there analysis doesn't go beyond a hard take with nothing to really go by or explanation...which I think Simms got caught doing with other aspects of football commentary in the past. Just stay in your wheelhouse Simms and let people just hate you for that...LOL.