NFL Draft QB Jalen Milroe’s development? [April 7: Saints worked out Jalen Milroe] [Seahawks draft Milroe in 3rd round, pick #92] (6 Viewers)

[TribuneUK]

Well of course…it’s an inexact science full of variables, and there’s no way to tell exactly how the sequence of events is going to unfold with each and every team and prospect. My only point is that as a rough guide, they have reason to believe that he’s not going to be sitting around for as long as many seem to believe.

Whether that occurs or not, that’s a different story and a matter of odds, probabilities, and circumstances; it’s impossible to predict with 100% certainty.

And they had reason to believe all those other guys were going much earlier too. End result, the invite means zip. It has no demonstrable influence upon the outcome, nor does it foretell the outcome.

 

[St. Widge]

Let's hope these aren't the same information gatherers who invited Randy Gregory, Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel and, of course, Aaron Rodgers to the same green room.

In other words, in reality, an invite doesn't mean zip about where a player will ultimately be drafted.

I mean, all the guys you named were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. They may have fallen further than fans and the media thought but they were still all first or second round picks. I think that makes it fair to say it's a really good bet that Milroe is going to get drafted in the 1st or 2nd.

Maybe I'm missing someone, but I don't recall any guys sitting in the "green room" for the draft that didn't get drafted until the 3rd or later. Can you think of anyone?

 

[TribuneUK]

I mean, all the guys you named were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. They may have fallen further than fans and the media thought but they were still all first or second round picks. I think that makes it fair to say it's a really good bet that Milroe is going to get drafted in the 1st or 2nd.

Maybe I'm missing someone, but I don't recall any guys sitting in the "green room" for the draft that didn't get drafted until the 3rd or later. Can you think of anyone?

Did you think his invite meant he was going 'somewhere in the first two rounds' when you trumpeted it as reason to expect him to go higher than expected, as you claimed?

And do you think any of those green room invites are made with an expectation that they don't go high in the draft's first round? Read the stories of how those names twisted uncomfortably in the breeze as team after team passed them over. In more than one case having to return next day to see if they'd be taken in the second.

Trying to justify the demonstrably erroneous statement that some 'information gatherers' know where in the draft a prospect will be selected is not going well. I'd suggest letting it go. Or quietly accepting that I'm going to deal in the inconvenient truth already shared without any hint of stepping back from it.

The guy hopefully gets picked early enough, to a great environment that gets the best out of him, but all this reading of the mystic tea leaves as demonstrable fact that some people start to get into at this time of year, has to be debunked.

 

[St. Widge]

Did you think his invite meant he was going 'somewhere in the first two rounds' when you trumpeted it as reason to expect him to go much higher than expected, as you claimed?

I didn't trumpet anything much less that I expect him to go much higher than expected. I also didn't claim that. I think you may be ranting at the wrong poster.

All I'm saying is that the invite more than likely means he's going in the first or second round. And, frankly, from my point of view that's too high for him to be drafted. From my amateur point of view, he likely should be a third round pick because why he has a very high ceiling, he also has a huge potential to bust.

Now, do you have any players that were invited to the draft by the NFL that went lower than the 2nd round?

 

[TribuneUK]

I didn't trumpet anything much less that I expect him to go much higher than expected. I also didn't claim that so I think you may be ranting at the wrong poster.

All I"m saying is that the invite more than likely means he's going in the first or second round. And, frankly, from my point of view that's too high for him to be drafted. From my amateur point of view, he likely should be a third round pick because why he has a very high ceiling, he also has a huge potential to bust.

I don't think you honestly thought a green room invite meant first or second round when you posted it, but that's just my deduction based on context and evidence available to me. You can of course tell your own truth.

FWIW what I've heard so far suggests strongly that he's a flawed prospect that all sorts of people are projecting as a worthwhile option, primarily out of desperation and lack of alternatives. So we don't disagree there.

 

[St. Widge]

I don't think you honestly thought a green room invite meant first or second round when you posted it, but that's just my deduction based on context and evidence available to me. You can of course tell your own truth.

FWIW what I've heard so far suggests strongly that he's a flawed prospect that all sorts of people are projecting as a worthwhile option, primarily out of desperation and lack of alternatives. So we don't disagree there.

I'm afraid you have made a faulty deduction.

But I'm curious what evidence you think there is that I think he's going to be drafted higher than people think?

 

[St. Geezy]

And they had reason to believe all those other guys were going much earlier too. End result, the invite means zip. It has no demonstrable influence upon the outcome, nor does it foretell the outcome.

You’re the voice of opposition of what basically everyone else, both here and the media, is saying about this development.

It’s a guide. It’s not a 100% full proof thing. No one said it is.

I’m not exactly sure why this needs to be debated to be honest. We get it; obviously nothing is guaranteed.

They don’t invite guys without some level of intel that they’re *not likely* to be sitting deep into the draft. Whether or not that comes to fruition depends on many variables, but it is indeed an educated decision on their part.

 

[St. Geezy]

I have made the post in the past, but the draft drama isn’t as dramatic as it is made out to be. A lot of it is theatrics for TV. A lot of matches are already made barring variables like trades or sudden unexpected runs on positions, and a lot of things are known to agents and such.

“It’s like watching WWE,” as one longtime former GM once told me.

Even during the draft, the actual selection meeting going on in the background is sometimes 4 or 5 picks ahead of what’s on TV, and the networks are pretending like they don’t know what’s happening and are showing delayed footage and reactions of prospects. I’ve literally sat in a war room and seen it for myself. It’s fake TV drama.

I say that all just to say that if Milroe got an invite, the league has some sort of info to give them confidence that he’s going to make for great TV that night. There’s a deeper level of intel that goes into these things than meets the eye.

This is a very educated TV production decision.

 

[tyler735]

Hey just stopping by again for another daily Jalen Milroe propaganda post. I just can’t help but think NFL scouts are much higher on him than most “draftniks”/media currently are. Won’t be the least bit surprised if he has the same “shock value” on draft night as a guy like Penix last year going 8th overall.





Not to mention the guy has gotten glowing reviews from everything I’ve seen regarding his personality and willingness to put in the work to improve. Get him with a good QB coach (Kellen Moore) and things could get very interesting in the NFL.

Daily Milroe propaganda post part 6. Here's a list of QB's that have a Big Time Throw rate of over 8.5% and averaged over 45 rush yards per game (removing sack yards). Also shows how their Turnover Worthy Pass % compares.

There are some real intriguing names on that list. Dustin Crom and Malik Willis are the only 2 that really stick out as not being on the level as the other guys on that list already in the NFL. They also played in much lower level conferences in college. Then again, I'd argue that Willis actually looked pretty solid for Green Bay in the few appearances he had as well last season.

 

[cdogg]

 

[Infoman]

I think I have described him word for word just like that... Truth.

 

[St. Geezy]

Haha…ouch. Sounds like this has come from a hard-nosed old school scout.

 

[No2DC]

Good points in this talk, especially the notion that he was exposed to good coaches at Bama.

 

[longtime lurker]

Did Jalen Milroe’s departure prevent transfer portal exodus at Alabama?

An anonymous NFL coach was quoted as saying the departure of Alabama football QB Jalen Milroe prevented "all the skill" from transferring away from Tuscaloosa.

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