Lou Hedley is quite literally the worst punter in the NFL. (1 Viewer)

[Taker597]

Yikes.

 

[Taker597]

And our HOF punter ranking

 

[Seapea]

Yet people want to cut Grupe.

Crazy wild world we live in.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

It’s really lazy and redundant to use Individual punter stats to try to show he’s bad without including context of the Average Punt Line of Scrimmage that he’s punting from. An average 36 yard line produces a 43 yard average.

Use real punt stats that measures the punts success and how the punts impacts the team like Average Opp Field Position after punts, Return Yards Allowed, # of IN20s, avg IN20 LOS, and # of Fair Catches.

Hedley’s among the best in the league in all of those categories.

Of course, real punt stats that shows the results of what each punt is doing for the team aren’t used because then he can’t be used as a scapegoat and wouldn’t be anything to complain about.

The >handful of bad punts will be pointed out fast while ignoring he had a 60+ yard punt and a punt that was fumbled, in the same game.

 

[football]

Another bad decision by the coaching staff

 

[Taker597]

It’s really lazy and redundant to use grayscale Individual punter stats to try to show he’s bad without including context of the Average Punt Line of Scrimmage that he’s punting from. An average 36 yard line produces a 43 yard average.

Use real punt stats that measures the punts success and how the punts impacts the team like Average Opp Field Position after punts, Return Yards Allowed, # of IN20s, avg IN20 LOS, and # of Fair Catches.

Hedley’s among the best in the league in all of those categories.

Of course, real punt stats that shows the results of what each punt is doing for the team aren’t used because then he can’t be used as a scapegoat and wouldn’t be anything to complain about.

The >handful of bad punts will be pointed out fast while ignoring he had a 60+ yard punt and a punt that was fumbled, in the same game.

Miss the statistical importance of Punts from own territory. Particularly deep in own territory.

Return yards is more indicative of return unit coverage and his lack of yardage on punts

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Miss the statistical importance of Punts from own territory. Particularly deep in own territory.

Return yards is more indicative of return unit coverage and his lack of yardage on punts

Hedley’s directing the punts at specific spots that coverage can immediately get to. Where he directs them and the spin or speed that he puts on the ball is dictating the minimal-no returns. The punts rarely allows more than 5 yards. That’s impressive for majority of 35 attempts.

When we had a punter who kicked 50+ yard punts, he always allowed double digit return yards. He didn’t keep the punts with the pace of the coverage unit.

His first game with Arizona was great for his own personal yard stats. But the 4 punts allowed 18 yards a return.

 

[killerdescore]

What did you expect from a 30 years old rookie punter ?
But he's not the reason we can't score touchdowns

 

[SonOfNOLA]

I wish these categories were shown more. This was prior to the Texans and Jags games. The Jags game increased his total of 50 yders and IN20s. For every bad punt Hedley has, the accepted top punters in the league have the same or more.

LOU HEDLEY through 5 weeks
Avg yards/att: 43.3
Avg punt LOS: NO36.5 yard line
Avg opp LOS after punts: OPPs 22 yard line
Avg landing yard-line: OPPs 20 yard line
Avg return yds allowed: 6.3 yards/10 returns
IN20: 11 punts (T-3rd most in NFL)
IN20 %: 39.3%
Avg IN20 LOS: OPPs 11 yard line
50+ yd: 6 punts

MICHAEL DICKSON through 4 weeks (bye in week 5)
Avg yards/att: 53.5
Avg punt LOS: SEA28.5 yard line
Avg opp LOS after punts: OPPs 23 yard line
Avg landing yard-line: OPPs 19 yard line
Avg return yds allowed: 4.2 yards/5 returns
IN20: 5 punts
IN20 %: 38.5%
Avg IN20 LOS: OPPs 9 yard line
50+ yd: 9 punts

AJ Cole through 5 weeks
Avg yards/att: 51.0
Avg punt LOS: LV32 yard line
Avg opp LOS after punts: OPPs 20 yard line
Avg landing yard-line: OPPs 18 yard line
Avg return yds allowed: 6.3 yards/4 returns
IN20: 10 punts
IN20 %: 55.6%
Avg IN20 LOS: OPPs 12 yard line
50+ yd: 10 punts

BRYAN ANGER through 5 weeks
Avg yards/att: 51.3
Avg punt LOS: DAL29 yard line
Avg opp LOS after punts: OPPs 24 yard line
Avg landing yard-line: OPPs 19 yard line
Avg return yds allowed: 8.8 yards/8 returns
IN20: 5 punts
IN20 %: 33.3%
Avg IN20 LOS: OPPs 14 yard line
50+ yd: 11 punts

 

[dataussie]

hedley is terrible.

 

[picnicwithfish]

I think they were going for the “line drive” style for the punter. Not sure why they went away from the traditional “flip the field” type of punter….

 

[Saintsphere]

Yet people want to cut Grupe.

Crazy wild world we live in.

...they're both not good?

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Yikes.

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this kind of a misleading stat? Lou's style of punting isn't anything like the rest of the league so judging him by hang time is totally unfair.

I thought his entire style was to limit return opportunities and then increased muffed punts. Weren't we 1st in the league in return yards allowed?

 

[football]

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this kind of a misleading stat? Lou's style of punting isn't anything like the rest of the league so judging him by hang time is totally unfair.

I thought his entire style was to limit return opportunities and then increased muffed punts. Weren't we 1st in the league in return yards allowed?

Yeah but how many yards do we have to sacrifice just to do that. For example, if a normal punt is 50 yards and Lou just punted 40 yards, then the other team gain 10 yards just fair catching it. I can understand doing that closer to their territory but when we are deeper in our territory,then that becomes and issue with field positions.

 

[luvdasaints]

Yeah i thought Blake G was money and still don't understand why we moved on from him. Terrible decisions by our coaching staff along with Grupe.