Quinn Ewers met the Saints at the Combine [Mar 24: Saints hosted dinner with Ewers]

[No2DC]

Carolina is also a bunch of dolts and went for young instead of stroud

Would you do that trade for Stroud or a guy I think could be very close in Ward?

That's revisionist history, just like folks saying they would have taken Jayden #1, when Caleb was the consensus #1 for most people last year. Young was the consensus guy. It looks like they made the wrong call, but at the time, no one complained. If you think he's that guy, I guess. However, we don't have the best history in the past 20 years of successful move ups like that. Ricky and Sully come to mind.

 

[No2DC]

Never said it was.

But the upside of actually hitting on a mid-late round pick at QB is worth a risk now and then. I think that’s the ultimate point here.

The odds are not in your favor—that's my point. You have two guys (Dak and Purdy) out of the 32 projected starters for next year who weren't first—or second-round picks, and neither are considered elite.

 

[Saint Spud]

The odds are not in your favor—that's my point. You have two guys (Dak and Purdy) out of the 32 projected starters for next year who weren't first—or second-round picks, and neither are considered elite.

The odds are never in your favor with a mid-late round pick anyway.

I’m not advocating that you just draft any QB But to completely dismiss the idea is pretty foolish, given the history of potential hits, imo.

 

[No2DC]

The odds are never in your favor with a mid-late round pick anyway.

I’m not advocating that you just draft any QB But to completely dismiss the idea is pretty foolish, given the history of potential hits, imo.

Ian Book, Jake Haener, Spencer Ratt. How's that working for you? That's the only QBs the team has drafted in the past 5 years.

 

[StudioSaint]

I would argue those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Anomoloies, not the norm. If you're not spending a first or second, you're not serious.

Yes, it has in a few cases. However, it is far from the norm, and I'm sure you know that.

Every draft pick position and every player drafted is both the rule and the exception. The draft is completely unpredictable and no player picked is guaranteed to succeed. Better success rates don't guarantee a successful outcome.

Given all of that. the best way to draft is by focusing on the players, and not the draft position they are available at.

The draft is not craps are roulette were you are betting on the probable outcomes of inanimate objects being put into motion. The teams are betting on the combination of coaching and a player. Those are the two most influential variables to a player's success. That's why it's normal for players to play very differently when they switch to different coaches. Sometimes they improve, sometimes they stay the same, and sometimes they regress.

 

[Saint Spud]

Ian Book, Jake Haener, Spencer Ratt. How's that working for you? That's the only QBs the team has drafted in the past 5 years.

Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, etc etc.

You can find great, good, average, and complete busts in any and every round at any and every position.

I’d love to see us draft a great QB. 1st round, 2nd round, 4th round…don’t really care where.

 

[No2DC]

Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, etc etc.

You can find great, good, average, and complete busts in any and every round at any and every position.

I’d love to see us draft a great QB. 1st round, 2nd round, 4th round…don’t really care where.

That's the point, we haven't drafted a QB high in decades, obviously we want to hit on one, but the mid rounds have not been the answer for us. That should be clear by now.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Please stay far away.

 

[UFCSaint]

I have only seen a few games of his and he looked decent from what I could tell. Is he worth a 1st round pick? Not from what I've seen. My brother and his wife (she is a huge Longhorns fan) live in Texas and have watched every game Ewers has played in. They don't think he will pan out in the NFL and said Texas fans have been champing at the bit for Arch to take over. Again, I have only seen a few games so I defer to their judgement.

 

[oodank]

I respectfully disagree about your McCord assessment and provide 2 reasons as to why:

1) Mccord rarely had enough time to sit in the pocket at Syracuse and go through progressions. The Syracuse O-line wasn't good enough to give him that kind of time. When McCord had success, he had to make pre-snap reads or create one on one match ups for his receivers by moving the safety. 2) He threw for 4,750 yards and 34 TDs (most in NCAA) at Syracuse, with Syracuse level talent in the ACC. 65% accuracy. His #1 RB rushed for over 1000 yards, so there was some offensive balance. So, I'll answer your statement with a question. How does McCord throw for that many yards and TDs if he processes slowly? And we all know it wasn't with his mobility. The answer is pre-snap and quick processing skills.

2024 highlights. They don't include his 500 yards, 4 TD bowl game highlights.

He has a slight pause hitch in his throwing motion before he releases the ball...didnt see a lot of McCord this past season. Developmental??

 

[Saint Greg]

Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, etc etc.

You can find great, good, average, and complete busts in any and every round at any and every position.

I’d love to see us draft a great QB. 1st round, 2nd round, 4th round…don’t really care where.

Name all of the great QBs in the past decade drafted after round 2. Your best is Purdy and he ain’t great. QBs are overdrafted to the point where you really have to get your guy in the 1st or 2nd round.

 

[Saint Greg]

Joe Montana. Brady. Dak. Brock Purdy. Cousins.

Notice how long ago all of those guys are except Purdy.

 

[SuperSaint]

Once in a blue moon, a QB drafted in the later rounds will turn into something special.

It doesn't change my belief that choosing a QB outside the top of round one is a problematic, hit and miss proposition.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

Per Underhill the saints met with people like Jahdae Barron/Matthew Golden at dinner

It wasn’t just Ewers