The Richmond, CA model of policing (positive community policing) (1 Viewer)

[Norwajun]

Use of deadly force by police disappears on Richmond streets - ContraCostaTimes.com

A spate of high-profile police shootings nationwide, most notably the killing of a black teen in Ferguson, Missouri, has stoked intense scrutiny of deadly force by officers and driven a series of demonstrations across the nation and the Bay Area. But in Richmond, historically one of the most violent cities in the Bay Area, the Police Department has averaged fewer than one officer-involved shooting per year since 2008, and no one has been killed by a cop since 2007.

A very revealing article that explores the methodology of a very successful community policing effort. I would love to see this model studied and maybe copied by many other departments around the country and see if it is an aberration or a solution.

 

[BHM]

Is this not the same city that pays at risk young males a monthly stipend?

 

[Norwajun]

Is this not the same city that pays at risk young males a monthly stipend?

What does this have to do with the topic? Please articulate your point, as I am not understanding it.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Is this not the same city that pays at risk young males a monthly stipend?

yes, they take a multi-pronged approach to civic wellness/safety
they realize they need to make sure that people are fed, in school, limiting teen pregnancies, making sure they don't have to rob to afford pampers, etc

it's a very hopeful situation

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/richmond-california-murder-rate-gun-death

 

[TheDeparted]

This sounds like a program that can succeed on a local level, but should not be implemented state or nation-wide. (That is, could be implemented state or nation-wide, but by individual communities so the program can be tailored to better suit them)

 

[Norwajun]

This sounds like a program that can succeed on a local level, but should not be implemented state or nation-wide. (That is, could be implemented state or nation-wide, but by individual communities so the program can be tailored to better suit them)

I agree. Policing needs to be administered at the state and local level, and a program like this could only work at that level. But, what do you take from this approach? Do you think it is attainable at a level of, say Baltimore or Los Angeles? I mean logistically, as well as philosophically speaking.

 

[TheDeparted]

I agree. Policing needs to be administered at the state and local level, and a program like this could only work at that level. But, what do you take from this approach? Do you think it is attainable at a level of, say Baltimore or Los Angeles? I mean logistically, as well as philosophically speaking.

Los Angeles is too big (as a whole). Needs to be implemented by smaller communities.

Philosophically, I'm undecided. It's definitely worth a shot, where possible.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

This sounds like a program that can succeed on a local level, but should not be implemented state or nation-wide. (That is, could be implemented state or nation-wide, but by individual communities so the program can be tailored to better suit them)

the program yes - but it should have national backing
every city was allowed to decay from the inside out, but most every city did it slightly differently
- but essentially, local jobs, education, infrastructure and inclusive policing would get us a long way

 

[Goatman Saint]

Is it also a realization at this point by the criminals that they are likely to not be put in a shoot or be shot situation? I mean at this point the cops will do what needs to be done through non violent means. Suspects I'm sure know this so are more willing to surrender as the fear of being shot and the escalating events leading up to it seemed to be toned down.

However or whatever it works, it is a good situation for other municipalities to look at and emulate.

 

[Norwajun]

Los Angeles is too big. Needs to be implemented by smaller communities.

Philosophically, I'm undecided. It's definitely worth a shot, where possible.

Yeah, I think logistically it would fail in an area the size of LA. There are some interesting concepts that off the top of my head would be interesting to try however. Personally I would like to see a larger effort toward foot patrol in some areas, with maybe special community engagement officers out speaking with groups in their neighborhoods, soliciting feedback about problem areas, and just brainstorming with the public about how to better police their communities.

Maybe a couple pilot programs to gather evidence? I'd love some feedback from police officers whether they think community-oriented policing concepts would be viable in their jurisdiction and why/why not.

I think it would be an interesting discussion as well as an opportunity to learn.

 

[TheDeparted]

the program yes - but it should have national backing
every city was allowed to decay from the inside out, but most every city did it slightly differently
- but essentially, local jobs, education, infrastructure and inclusive policing would get us a long way

Also, high import tariffs so we can get manufacturing jobs back into the U.S.!

 

[SaintJ]

Also, high import tariffs so we can get manufacturing jobs back into the U.S.!

Well, Smoot-Hawley worked so well in 1930, I think you may be on to something!

 

[RazorOye]

Los Angeles is too big (as a whole). Needs to be implemented by smaller communities.

Philosophically, I'm undecided. It's definitely worth a shot, where possible.

the state of Louisiana has a ton of smaller communities (aka sheriff fiefdoms). There can't be many states with more local opportunity to do something like this than Louisiana. It's sad that there also can't be many states less likely to pursue this than Louisiana.

Over the years, I've seen a number of really positive initiatives that have shown promise in communities (I don't like the term "at-risk" fwiw) - but I've only ever come across one that took place in Louisiana. The outcomes were (and continue to be) positive - and it cannot get traction anywhere else in the state.

It's really sad and discouraging.

 

[TheDeparted]

Well, Smoot-Hawley worked so well in 1930, I think you may be on to something!

Exports are overrated. Also, we're on Fiat money now. It's worth whatever we want it to be worth!

 

[BHM]

What does this have to do with the topic? Please articulate your point, as I am not understanding it.

I asked a straight forward question that does relate to the topic in that it also affects crime and criminal activity.