Toronto Raptors (4-14) @ New Orleans Pelicans (4-14) at 7pm Local. An Ole fashioned Tank Battle. (5 Viewers)

I trust that we will win this game tonight.
It's gotta feel better than losing.
 
Just tank and trade Zion so we can build a modern team next year already.... This experiment is over.

Way too early to be thinking about tanking. The ship will right itself once we start getting guys healthy again.
 
Way too early to be thinking about tanking. The ship will right itself once we start getting guys healthy again.

Based on what history do you see this mythical length of time that we get (and stay) healthy... happening? 10 or so games under .500 in the Western Conference is time to start thinking (and actually planning) given what we know about Zion.

If the other guys get healthy we can maybe right the ship without him and back into a play-in... But at this point - Who cares?

They are not contending until they can get a modern, reliable, and talented 8 man rotation... There are some young pieces here, but This ain't it... time to move on while guys like Zion, CJ, and BI are worth trading.

I've been saying for 3 years - we should build around BI and trade Zion... Not because BI is a better player or some beacon of health... But because compared to Zion... He's at least a more available piece you can build around.
 
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Based on what history do you see this mythical length of time that we get (and stay) healthy... happening? 10 or so games under .500 in the Western Conference is time to start thinking (and actually planning) given what we know about Zion.

You can't compare this season to any other season because we have never had our entire starting lineup injured before. Yes, we are in a hole but this team is capable of digging itself out of it. We play 82 games, not 17.
 
You can't compare this season to any other season because we have never had our entire starting lineup injured before. Yes, we are in a hole but this team is capable of digging itself out of it. We play 82 games, not 17.

Yes I can. Things you can count on…. Zion will play about 50% of the regular season…. And 0% of the playoffs. This is year 6, not year 2. Time to move on. Time to reset. This is no longer an anomaly. This is who he is. Full stop.
 
Yes I can. Things you can count on…. Zion will play about 50% of the regular season…. And 0% of the playoffs. This is year 6, not year 2. Time to move on. Time to reset. This is no longer an anomaly. This is who he is. Full stop.

And who exactly is trading for a player with those stats? No one.
 
Based on what history do you see this mythical length of time that we get (and stay) healthy... happening? 10 or so games under .500 in the Western Conference is time to start thinking (and actually planning) given what we know about Zion.

If the other guys get healthy we can maybe right the ship without him and back into a play-in... But at this point - Who cares?

They are not contending until they can get a modern, reliable, and talented 8 man rotation... There are some young pieces here, but This ain't it... time to move on while guys like Zion, CJ, and BI are worth trading.

I've been saying for 3 years - we should build around BI and trade Zion... Not because BI is a better player or some beacon of health... But because compared to Zion... He's at least a more available piece you can build around.
I'm not onboard with tanking...yet! I am with you on errythang else!

They still have time to make a decent run if they make some moves, in particular, they get whatever they can for Zion, the false prophet!

IMO, they are missing reliable shooters in a bad way. If they had just ONE guy that could knock-down shots from beyond the arc at a reliable rate, we wouldn't be below .500. They have shown that they are capable of moving the ball when they are forced to, Payton had 21 assist the other night.

If we shot the ball as good as Indy did, or any other team we faced up until this point, this team would be at least in the top 5 in the West instead of dead last.
 
No BI and no Trey. So you're still missing 5 of your top 8 rotation. Just plain disgusting. Almost feel like nobody is taking excellent care of their bodies because there isn't enough motivation to play for the Pelicans.
 
Sorry. I’m just in full on tank for Flagg mode. When you can’t ever count on your highest paid player to ever be available…. And even when you have your supporting cast somewhat available.., It’s a 50/50 proposition…. Time to blow it up.
 

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