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[NOSfan]

5. Sean Payton, Saints

There’s no offensive coach in the NFL better at creating favorable match-ups than Payton. That’s how the Saints offense remains in the top-half of the league without elite talent at the receiver position. While most other quarterbacks see their production fall off when their top targets go down, Drew Brees just keeps putting up 4,000-yard seasons.

Ranking all 32 NFL head coaches, from worst to first | For The Win

 

[Mamba]

Zimmer @ #4? Wow.

 

[IceHot]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

 

[44slayer]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

Can you please name 10 coaches better than Belichick?

 

[Saint Jack]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

When you consider that he won 4 Super Bowls in the Free Agency Era, he is the best.

 

[bartk12]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

So name me 10 coaches who created a dynasty for 14+ years. Look at what he has accomplished over all those years. Maybe you just value other things in a HC more.

I really love what SP has done for the Saints since 06, but he is also somewhat responsible for the defensive woes of the last few years. Top 5 sounds about right at this stage

 

[bobad]

As soon as Bellichick retires, his name will be mentioned with that of Walsh, Landry, Shula, Noll, and Vermeil. Payton could join that group some day, but he better get winning.

 

[Optimus Prime]

5. Sean Payton, Saints

That’s how the Saints offense remains in the top-half of the league without elite talent at the receiver position.

Ranking all 32 NFL head coaches, from worst to first | For The Win

Top-half is top 16 - Aren't we always a top 5 offense and often number 1?

 

[KtoLV]

5000 yard seasons.

 

[Saintshizzle]

When you consider that he won 4 Super Bowls in the Free Agency Era, he is the best.

It's unbelievable, and unmatched, not sure if any winning coach prior to him could do what he is doing with this CBA, salary cap and free agency. Why Sean Payton is not spending 90% of his time at Bill Belichick house in the off seasons is almost unforgivable. Bill would be sick of me calling him, and asking to watch film and give me defensive tips with so-so, average athletic, defensive guys. Glean everything, bc all shame goes away when you are up there with him, after y'all are both old, with 4-5 SBs each to tout. Hell, even if BB ribs him on it, if I was coach, I would be like...if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying, wink wink.

 

[parlorcitysaint]

So name me 10 coaches who created a dynasty for 14+ years. Look at what he has accomplished over all those years. Maybe you just value other things in a HC more.

I really love what SP has done for the Saints since 06, but he is also somewhat responsible for the defensive woes of the last few years. Top 5 sounds about right at this stage

As long as Pete Rose is excluded from the Hall of Fame, I think belecheat should be omitted from GOAT talks.

He's gotten where he is by skirting the rules. That's not exactly sportsman like.

 

[IceHot]

Can you please name 10 coaches better than Belichick?

Easily in no particular order:

1. Paul Brown because he won 7 Championships not just 4. And innovated a multitude of things still used in the NFL including the radio helmet. Consider this CLEVELAND once DOMINATED the NFL.

2. George Halas 6 championships but also had to run the whole team in an era when the NFL was struggling to succeed. He maintained a .682 win percentage in 40 years of coaching.

3. Curly Lambeau also 6 Championships a big reason the forward pass works so well in the NFL

4. Vince Lombardi 5 Championship titles and has his name on the trophy for a reason.

5. Guy Chamberlin 4 Titles same as Belichick but he did his in only 6 seasons. He has the greatest win percentage in the NFL with .784. There is a reason the Hall of Fame is in Canton. And in case you are counting he actually had the first 2 undefeated seasons in NFL history.

6. John Madden only won 1 championship but holds a .759 win percentage right behind Chamberlin but with significantly more games.

7. Don Shula has sustained a .677 win percentage in 33 years of coaching has taken 2 separate organizations to the Superbowl and actually completed the perfect season and then followed that up with a back to back superbowl.

8 through 10 are debatable but it is after all my opinion not yours

8. Blanton Collier a short career with only 8 seasons. But he never finished less than 2nd in his Division. NEVER and with the Browns. The last time the Browns won a title was with Collier they havent been relevant since. He had a .691 win percentage.

9. Bill Walsh one of the West Coast Offense pioneers. 6 Division titles and 3 Super Bowls. Perhaps bias, but I prefer Walsh over Belichick.

10. Tom Landry again bias for that era of football (obviously no bias for the Cowboys). 18 playoff seasons. One of the great defensive minds of football. IMO he is the reason too much of America fawns over the Cowboys. Sure Jimmy Johnson won the Superbowl but Landry built that cult and coaches have been clinging on ever since.

Reasonable Arguments Can Also be made for:
Bill Belichick - I certainly wont fault anyone for including Bill in their top 10, he just isnt in mine.

Chuck Noll
George Allen
Jim Lee Howell
Steve Owen
Ray Flaherty
and Greasy Neale

EDIT: Joe Gibbs probably has a place in here somewhere as well.

 

[HobBeh]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

Please....saying he sucked with the Browns when those were only a few of his seasons? He won a playoff game with the Browns (EDIT AGAINST PARCELLS). He "sucked" when they were moving.

 

[faceman]

Too low if you ask me should be Top 3.

Also Bill Belichik is not the greatest coach in NFL History people clearly do not know what that word means. Perhaps in Super Bowl History but not in History. In my opinion he isnt even in the Top 10.

He sucked with the Browns, inherited a reasonably good team from Parcells, has a great Owner, has coached in one of the easiest eras of the NFL, and has innovated next to nothing (other than perhaps how to skirt the rules). Dont get me wrong he is awesome and will be in the Hall of Fame but he is not the best in NFL History by any stretch.

I know i'm piling on here,but this isn't the easiest era to win in. Coaches in previous eras didn't have to worry about losing their best
players in FA. There is no way in todays era you could keep a team like the 1970's Steelers together. Their talent level on the
defensive side of the ball alone would exceed the cap.

 

[HobBeh]

Easily in no particular order:

1. Paul Brown because he won 7 Championships not just 4. And innovated a multitude of things still used in the NFL including the radio helmet. Consider this CLEVELAND once DOMINATED the NFL.

2. George Halas 6 championships but also had to run the whole team in an era when the NFL was struggling to succeed. He maintained a .682 win percentage in 40 years of coaching.

3. Curly Lambeau also 6 Championships a big reason the forward pass works so well in the NFL

4. Vince Lombardi 5 Championship titles and has his name on the trophy for a reason.

5. Guy Chamberlin 4 Titles same as Belichick but he did his in only 6 seasons. He has the greatest win percentage in the NFL with .784. There is a reason the Hall of Fame is in Canton. And in case you are counting he actually had the first 2 undefeated seasons in NFL history.

6. John Madden only won 1 championship but holds a .759 win percentage right behind Chamberlin but with significantly more games.

7. Don Shula has sustained a .677 win percentage in 33 years of coaching has taken 2 separate organizations to the Superbowl and actually completed the perfect season and then followed that up with a back to back superbowl.

8 through 10 are debatable but it is after all my opinion not yours

8. Blanton Collier a short career with only 8 seasons. But he never finished less than 2nd in his Division. NEVER and with the Browns. The last time the Browns won a title was with Collier they havent been relevant since. He had a .691 win percentage.

9. Bill Walsh one of the West Coast Offense pioneers. 6 Division titles and 3 Super Bowls. Perhaps bias, but I prefer Walsh over Belichick.

10. Tom Landry again bias for that era of football (obviously no bias for the Cowboys). 18 playoff seasons. One of the great defensive minds of football. IMO he is the reason too much of America fawns over the Cowboys. Sure Jimmy Johnson won the Superbowl but Landry built that cult and coaches have been clinging on ever since.

Reasonable Arguments Can Also be made for:
Bill Belichick - I certainly wont fault anyone for including Bill in their top 10, he just isnt in mine.

Chuck Noll
George Allen
Jim Lee Howell
Steve Owen
Ray Flaherty
and Greasy Neale

EDIT: Joe Gibbs probably has a place in here somewhere as well.

Joe Gibbs definitely for winning Super Bowls with three different QBs.

As for Belichick not being in your top 10...sorry but his accomplishments are at least as good as Shula and Landry. Shula's perfect season was when the regular season was 14 games, and saying Landry had anything to do with Johnson/Jones Super Bowls is laughable.

Finally, Belichick went 11-5 without Brady. What more need be said?