Rizzi: Rattler and Haener will compete in practice to see who starts vs Commanders (1 Viewer)

[DavidM]

Because they aren't the starting QB. It might make a big difference in spring training/preseason or early in the season, but we're in week 13/14 it's really not going to make that much difference. And I'll say again that it's not an exact science. You're trying to find out what gives you the best chance to win. Maybe later in the week they go 100% one way or the other, but you still have to give each enough reps to figure out which way they go.

And for all we know, he may already know and will give one more reps. I don't know how I feel about Rizzi’s long term prospects, but I'm down with whatever. Let him do his thing is how I feel about it.

It’s also a chance to get both of them some meaningful reps as the season winds down, accounting for the possibility of both getting playing time, since neither is an established starter.

Generally, once you lose your starting QB for an extended period, none of the remaining alternative scenarios are ideal. Just have to roll with it.

 

[jasonsw]

There really isn't much for washington to gameplan for either way. back qbs with back up WRs and no Taysom equals a disaster.

 

[meily]

I simply like Rattler's potential over Haener's. And if you're going to take a look, it's now.

I agree, but to have Haener as your backup and not give him a chance to start seems counter productive.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s also a chance to get both of them some meaningful reps as the season winds down, accounting for the possibility of both getting playing time, since neither is an established starter.

Generally, once you lose your starting QB for an extended period, none of the remaining alternative scenarios are ideal. Just have to roll with it.

Agreed. I'm just thinking this late in the season, it's not going to make a huge difference either way. There's little value added in giving one or the other all of the reps, so you might as well see who is more comfortable in the offense right now.

 

[DavidM]

Agreed. I'm just thinking this late in the season, it's not going to make a huge difference either way. There's little value added in giving one or the other all of the reps, so you might as well see who is more comfortable in the offense right now.

I don’t think it makes a big difference either. Losing Carr is the big deal, now the team has to figure out who and what gives them the best chance to win their remaining games. I don’t fault Rizzi for not relying on what was decided under Allen earlier in the season. He’s in charge now and he has to make the decisions he thinks are best for the team. And he gets to make those decisions through whatever process works for him.

 

[DaveXA]

I think the way it matter is in evaluating Rizzi as a potential HC. If you like what he is doing then it's a point in his favor. If you don't like it, it's a point against him.

I really don't think this is going to be a significant part of how he gets judged as a HC. Reason being is every HC has a different opinion on how they'd handle this. Of course, your point is a valid take too. I guess we'll see how it shakes out.

 

[DaveXA]

I don’t think it makes a big difference either. Losing Carr is the big deal, now the team has to figure out who and what gives them the best chance to win their remaining games. I don’t fault Rizzi for not relying on what was decided under Allen earlier in the season. He’s in charge now and he has to make the decisions he thinks are best for the team. And he gets to make those decisions through whatever process works for him.

Indeed.

 

[TribuneUK]

I think the way it matter is in evaluating Rizzi as a potential HC. If you like what he is doing then it's a point in his favor. If you don't like it, it's a point against him.

I'm guessing you mean the team's evaluation of Rizzi.

Our evaluation means absolutely zip to the future direction of the franchise. As does our opinion on which QB gets the start.

"Engaged but powerless" is where we sit as fans in the stakeholder matrix of football life.

So as long as we debate our views, but don't unduly expect them to materialise, then we're in a fairly reasonable place.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Agreed. I'm just thinking this late in the season, it's not going to make a huge difference either way. There's little value added in giving one or the other all of the reps, so you might as well see who is more comfortable in the offense right now.

That's not true at all. Different QB's have different habits. Throw speed, accuracy, tendency on ball placement. Even down to the wire on the reciever anticipating what the QB will do if they get pressured. All of it is different and plays a significant role to the WR to succeed.

I don't see any all-star WR's on our roster that can adapt to two QB's in a few practices. But trying to adapt to one is certainly putting your receivers in better situation to succeed.

Hopefully this is just talk so that Washington can't gameplan for just 1 QB. Because the QB battle should've already taken place in training camp. He should already know exactly who he's starting when he's walking into the facility Monday Morning.

Anything less is failing to put your players in best position to succeed, and not good coaching.

 

[DavidM]

That's not true at all. Different QB's have different habits. Throw speed, accuracy, tendency on ball placement. Even down to the wire on the reciever anticipating what the QB will do if they get pressured. All of it is different and plays a significant role to the WR to succeed.

I don't see any all-star WR's on our roster that can adapt to two QB's in a few practices. But trying to adapt to one is certainly putting your receivers in better situation to succeed.

Hopefully this is just talk so that Washington can't gameplan for just 1 QB. Because the QB battle should've already taken place in training camp. He should already know exactly who he's starting when he's walking into the facility Monday Morning.

Anything less is failing to put your players in best position to succeed, and not good coaching.

I don’t know, this sounds like an explanation meant to exaggerate the circumstances to support a particular conclusion.

The starter went down so all of these changes and new prep become necessary, no matter what Rizzi decides. He wasn’t the training camp HC, so he isn’t bound to Allen’s judgements and depth chart, anyway.

For one week, I think the team can take a chance adapting the work load for the purpose of identifying the better of two players to (hopefully) lead this team the rest of the way. Neither of them have a lot of experience and Rattler understandably struggled under some difficult circumstances.

Losing Carr is a significant setback; everything else is just taking a shot at making the most of what remains of the season.

 

[DaveXA]

That's not true at all. Different QB's have different habits. Throw speed, accuracy, tendency on ball placement. Even down to the wire on the reciever anticipating what the QB will do if they get pressured. All of it is different and plays a significant role to the WR to succeed.

I don't see any all-star WR's on our roster that can adapt to two QB's in a few practices. But trying to adapt to one is certainly putting your receivers in better situation to succeed.

Hopefully this is just talk so that Washington can't gameplan for just 1 QB. Because the QB battle should've already taken place in training camp. He should already know exactly who he's starting when he's walking into the facility Monday Morning.

Anything less is failing to put your players in best position to succeed, and not good coaching.

Like I stated earlier, you ask 10 different coaches about how to handle this and I'm sure you'll get a lot of different answers. And it's not that much different between Rattler and Haener. The difference is likely much greater between them and Carr.

These guys have been together for several months, so they already know each other's tendencies pretty well.

And like another poster pointed out, Rizzi is gonna make his own decision, and not worry about whatever decisions Allen made earlier in the season.

 

[SWJJ]

I feel like Haener has shown he has a better command of the offense. The floor is higher with Haener, I love Rattler's elusiveness and big arm, but I think Haener has better touch, accuracy and better poise. If we are trying to win with the roster we have, I want to see Haener start.

 

[St. Widge]

I really don't think this is going to be a significant part of how he gets judged as a HC. Reason being is every HC has a different opinion on how they'd handle this. Of course, your point is a valid take too. I guess we'll see how it shakes out.

It might not be. On the other hand, if he picks one and they go out and look great, it would probably help him get the job. But, if the one he picks is bad, it probably won't change much other than that any loss is going to hurt his chances.

But, I do think Loomis, or whoever is deciding on the new HC, has to look at the decision making processes that Rizzi goes through when making decision like this in judging if he is the right guy for the job. Some might see the way he is doing it as a positive and some might think it's a poor process. But, I would think any interview would include Rizzi being asked how he decided to make the decision on which QB to start and the process he went through to make that decision. To me the process he used to make the decision is more important than what the decision is.

From my point of view, he's seen both of these guys in practice, in camp, in preseason, and in games so I would think he should know by now who is the right option and that he should get them as many reps this week as possible given how few reps, if any, backup QBs get during an NFL season. And I'm not sure how KK is going to make a good game plan if he doesn't know which QB is starting. In the end it probably doesn't matter since we have little to no chance of winning with either of the backups given the injuries on offense, but I would still prefer that the process be different.

But, I could be wrong, maybe the way he is doing it will turn out to be the right way.

 

[St. Widge]

I'm guessing you mean the team's evaluation of Rizzi.

Our evaluation means absolutely zip to the future direction of the franchise. As does our opinion on which QB gets the start.

"Engaged but powerless" is where we sit as fans in the stakeholder matrix of football life.

So as long as we debate our views, but don't unduly expect them to materialise, then we're in a fairly reasonable place.

Yes, how the team evaluates Rizzi as a HC candidate. How we evaluate him doesn't matter.