Quinn Ewers met the Saints at the Combine [Mar 24: Saints hosted dinner with Ewers]

[3ParStillDriver]

I respectfully disagree about your McCord assessment and provide 2 reasons as to why:

1) Mccord rarely had enough time to sit in the pocket at Syracuse and go through progressions. The Syracuse O-line wasn't good enough to give him that kind of time. When McCord had success, he had to make pre-snap reads or create one on one match ups for his receivers by moving the safety. 2) He threw for 4,750 yards and 34 TDs (most in NCAA) at Syracuse, with Syracuse level talent in the ACC. 65% accuracy. His #1 RB rushed for over 1000 yards, so there was some offensive balance. So, I'll answer your statement with a question. How does McCord throw for that many yards and TDs if he processes slowly? And we all know it wasn't with his mobility. The answer is pre-snap and quick processing skills.

ooooo. Good convo and a better question. I didn't watch every game he played. Only 3? I think it was 3. I recall being mesmerized how much he staired down his receiver. He quite literally has a massive habit staring down his receiver. I haven't looked, but from what I recall, I'm nearly willing to bet if you pull up any 3+ minute highlight from 2024 you'll see him immediately begin staring down receivers as soon as the ball is in his hand at least 50% of the time.

Another thing that stuck out to me, is the few times he didn't stair down his receiver he spent quite a bit of time looking at each receiver. Think in terms of 2 foot taps a second, and maybe my memory is a bit off but it seemed like he would often spend about 2 foot taps on each option, where as if you were to apply the same time to someone like Brady or Brees (I know, the greats, but they make fantastic comparisons here) they spent no more then 1 foot tap, sometimes not even a full foot tap to go from read 2 to 3.

The way he staired down receivers makes me think either his WR talent was incredibly superior OR he was extremely good reading pre-snap. Maybe a bit of both. But my god the way he staired down those receivers, I was utterly floored how defenses weren't getting into position to rob him.

 

[syracuse saint]

ooooo. Good convo and a better question. I didn't watch every game he played. Only 3? I think it was 3. I recall being mesmerized how much he staired down his receiver. He quite literally has a massive habit staring down his receiver. I haven't looked, but from what I recall, I'm nearly willing to bet if you pull up any 3+ minute highlight from 2024 you'll see him immediately begin staring down receivers as soon as the ball is in his hand at least 50% of the time.

Another thing that stuck out to me, is the few times he didn't stair down his receiver he spent quite a bit of time looking at each receiver. Think in terms of 2 foot taps a second, and maybe my memory is a bit off but it seemed like he would often spend about 2 foot taps on each option, where as if you were to apply the same time to someone like Brady or Brees (I know, the greats, but they make fantastic comparisons here) they spent no more then 1 foot tap, sometimes not even a full foot tap to go from read 2 to 3.

The way he staired down receivers makes me think either his WR talent was incredibly superior OR he was extremely good reading pre-snap. Maybe a bit of both. But my god the way he staired down those receivers, I was utterly floored how defenses weren't getting into position to rob him.

Watch 15 minute video I posted

 

[St. Widge]

Watch 15 minute video I posted

I don't have a dog in this since I'm not a Syracuse fan and I haven't watched McCord play, but a 15 minute highlight video is only going to show the good things he does. It's not going to show the bad things like holding the ball too long, etc.

 

[syracuse saint]

I don't have a dog in this since I'm not a Syracuse fan and I haven't watched McCord play, but a 15 minute highlight video is only going to show the good things he does. It's not going to show the bad things like holding the ball too long, etc.

Very true. He had a nightmare game against Pitt. Pitt D only rushed 3 or 4 and got pressure and Syracuse couldnt run at all and he threw into trouble. He has too much confidence in his arm sometimes.

That said, while I watched the 15 minute video, all I could think about was where are all the other highlights? They left a lot out. I hear what your saying, but when you throw for an average of 400 yards and 3 TDS a game in college at 65.8% and his next gen mechanical measurables that were measured at the East West shrine week were some of the best ever. I will attach those results below.

The raw numbers that show Kyle McCord’s arm talent, plus 2 NFL comparisons

Syracuse's Kyle McCord drew two NFL comparisons from the top decision-maker for the East-West Shrine Bowl.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Saint KayBee]

If they pass on taking a quarterback more than 3x (which includes trading out of their picks) then they might as well let all the prospects at the position go. It’s not a top-heavy year for QBs, their mid/late-round selections at the position haven’t given much reason to believe, there are other needs where the risk quotient is much lower, and there are better prospects expected to come next season.

 

[St. Widge]

Very true. He had a nightmare game against Pitt. Pitt D only rushed 3 or 4 and got pressure and Syracuse couldnt run at all and he threw into trouble. He has too much confidence in his arm sometimes.

That said, while I watched the 15 minute video, all I could think about was where are all the other highlights? They left a lot out. I hear what your saying, but when you throw for an average of 400 yards and 3 TDS a game in college at 65.8% and his next gen mechanical measurables that were measured at the East West shrine week were some of the best ever. I will attach those results below.

The raw numbers that show Kyle McCord’s arm talent, plus 2 NFL comparisons

Syracuse's Kyle McCord drew two NFL comparisons from the top decision-maker for the East-West Shrine Bowl.

www.syracuse.com

Like I said, I haven't really looked at him but I have read and heard many say that he is a sleeper prospect. Assuming his tape checks that out, I'd have no problem taking a shot on him in the middle rounds. And, it's certainly possible, if not likely that he is a better prospect than Ewers.

 

[St. Widge]

If they pass on taking a quarterback more than 3x (which includes trading out of their picks) then they might as well let all the prospects at the position go. It’s not a top-heavy year for QBs, their mid/late-round selections at the position haven’t given much reason to believe, there are other needs where the risk quotient is much lower, and there are better prospects expected to come next season.

That's all true, but at the same point, there may be no better fix for a team's salary cap and number of wins than hitting on a mid-round QB. The cost is relatively low, but the upside is immeasurable. I do think they need to spend a high pick on a QB soon, but until they do, they need to keep pulling mid-round lottery tickets on QBs and hoping that they hit.

 

[Saint KayBee]

That's all true, but at the same point, there may be no better fix for a team's salary cap and number of wins than hitting on a mid-round QB. The cost is relatively low, but the upside is immeasurable. I do think they need to spend a high pick on a QB soon, but until they do, they need to keep pulling mid-round lottery tickets on QBs and hoping that they hit.

I’m like, 85% of the way with you on this… the missing 15 really is that, unlike every other position, QB is where one guy gets all the reps. If the vision isn’t “this guy is QB1 as soon as we can move on” then I’d focus building the rest of the team in positions where there’s a more viable pathway to a starting role, even if it’s something like a tackle sliding inside to guard, a 4-3 DE standing up to play OLB, a WR bulking up to play TE, that sort of thing.

 

[SuperSaint]

If you count QB as a need, then we basically need help everywhere.

Every possibility is on the table.

 

[Meachemdat]

A QB with bad throwing mechanics and terrible decision making..ooh yeah give me one of those…

 

[Eeyore]

Did he have a saints hat on his backpack?

 

[No2DC]

More folks are talking about the kid from Louisville; he seems to be this year's Penix/Nix with 7 years of college and injury history.

 

[webster]

Would y'all take a chance on him in the 4th or 5th round?

Yes, I prefer Dart, but getting Ewers in the fourth is a value pick.

 

[St. Geezy]

Smoke screen.

We just want to see if he’ll make a good QB coach for us in five years.