5 year reunion... BEWARE BROOKS FLASHBACKS!!! (1 Viewer)

[Guitarzan]

AB, it could be said, has been blackballed. He took the low ground on a few issues and it's costing him. BTJMT

 

[rjackson57]

AB, it could be said, has been blackballed. He took the low ground on a few issues and it's costing him. BTJMT

I remember reading about this as well. I can't recall the sources but remember reading that GMs may be looking the other way due to some comments Brooks made regarding Benson.

 

[blackadder]

Scandalous, I think despite all the faults that the Haslett regime gave, he was a coach that usually put good teams on the field. I mean we only had like 2 losing seasons with him here, the rest were 8-8 and 9-7 and the 10-6 season we all know about. I miss Haslett in a way because for all the grief and the fist pounding rants that came our way under him, it was exciting. The team was always doing something remarkable or insane or just plain outrageous. Sure I wish he could have won more and been more strict with his players, but he won 45 games as our coach, thats 2nd place behind Mora. We haven't had many HC's who had the impact Haz did, for better or worse.
I will always think of Haslett as a coach who at least tried to bring us a winner and for the most part gave us a good direction for the future. At least under him he did make us competitive and we were always in contention for the playoffs. I think we had some bad luck in 2004 where the Jets missed a FG that would have sent us to the playoffs, but we were competitive and Haslett was a hell of a coach, I will never forget his time here

Saintman Haslett might have gobe back to the playoffs and had a much different career if he had not hitched his wagon to Brooks, or at least cut if loose sooner.

The Haslett Saints were excruciatingly painful to watch. Up one week, down the next. Penalties and mental errors abounded. Much of that reflected Brooks lack of leadership and his own inconsistency, his forgetting plays, the snap count etc.

Haslett's fault was not cutting bait with him the way Cowher ultimately did with Kordell Stewart.

That and being unable to find a linebacker to save his life. 7-9 8-8 and 9-7 were actually among the lowest of the low points of my career as a Saints fan because the team was so predictable in its inconsistency.

It was ugly ugly football.

 

[blackadder]

funny McCarthy is brought up. One of his reasons for leaving was believed to be not wanting to cede to a prima dona QB that needed a watered down version of his offense in order to continue.

Yeah, but if not for McCarthy we would never have brought Brooks in. McCarthy had Haslett trade with Green Bay for Brooks.

McCarthy doesn't bring Brooks here, Delhomme gets his shot and runs the offense consistently and efficiently enough to get us in successive playoff appearances.

It would have happened.

 

[Guitarzan]

Yeah, but if not for McCarthy we would never have brought Brooks in. McCarthy had Haslett trade with Green Bay for Brooks.

McCarthy doesn't bring Brooks here, Delhomme gets his shot and runs the offense consistently and efficiently enough to get us in successive playoff appearances.

It would have happened.

thats true but once AB became a star he quickly burned the bridges, just as he would eventually do with HAZ.

And it wasn't just Tom. It was HAZ, Tag and the NFL in general. On the New York home game his pregame rant pretty much summed up the notion that at the QB position we had a player who had already rationalized a way to still feel ok about being destined to lose games.

BTJMT

 

[FatiusJeebs]

I am having a bit of a timeline issue here. Help jog my memory. I see people saying that Haslett could not find a LB to save his life. What year did we lose Mark Fields??

 

[RockyMtnSaint]

I am having a bit of a timeline issue here. Help jog my memory. I see people saying that Haslett could not find a LB to save his life. What year did we lose Mark Fields??

Fields left in 2001. So Haslett had a great LB, he just couldn't keep him.

In all fairness, some of the LBs we drafted should have been good players. LSSpam has addressed this in other posts so I won't belabor the point. However, Watson was a good draft choice as was Fincher. For some reason they didn't work out but these were guys that were very productive in college.

 

[rbenet]

Yeah, but if not for McCarthy we would never have brought Brooks in. McCarthy had Haslett trade with Green Bay for Brooks.

McCarthy doesn't bring Brooks here, Delhomme gets his shot and runs the offense consistently and efficiently enough to get us in successive playoff appearances.

It would have happened.

McCarthy and Haz get a lot of the blame for the poor performance. I forget who said it (may have been Kenny), but reports are that McCarthy couldn't get the play in to Brooks before the comm's were shut off, so Brooks had to improvise with very little time left to get the team to the line and get the play off.
Honestly...even Brees would struggle in that environment.

If he's blackballed for making disparaging comments, then so be it.

 

[T-Bone]

Had Hasslet just played Jake, when Brooks had the shoulder problem, we win out that year and different ending to his story.

 

[rbenet]

Had Hasslet just played Jake, when Brooks had the shoulder problem, we win out that year and different ending to his story.

Absolutely true. Funny how things work out.

 

[MJ in Calif]

We haven't had many HC's who had the impact Haz did, for better or worse.
I will always think of Haslett as a coach who at least tried to bring us a winner and for the most part gave us a good direction for the future. At least under him he did make us competitive and we were always in contention for the playoffs. I think we had some bad luck in 2004 where the Jets missed a FG that would have sent us to the playoffs, but we were competitive and Haslett was a hell of a coach, I will never forget his time here

I would have to say that it was "for worse". Haslett, to me represented under-achievement, undiscipline teams, unpreparedness, and a total lack of focus exhibited by his players. He made some of the worse decisions I've seen a HC make in my lifetime. There was no bad luck with Haslett, it was poor executive leadership on and off the field. He showed favoritism to some players and ostracised others. The LBs he drafted, the Jonathan Sullivan debacle, the AB debacle at the end of the 2002 season that cost the team a playoff berth, the late season collapses, using expletives with the officials, were all Haslett trademarks that cost the franchise dearly.

Sure, he did some good things as most coaches do, but the bad far outnumbered the good
Other than the lone 2000 season, which seemed to be the exception and not the rule, I would like to forget his time with the team. Good riddens.