Avian Flu Jumps to Mammals (Update: continued evolution to human illness) (1 Viewer)

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MarylandWHODAT said:
I work in the poultry industry and we talk about this all the time. Avian influenza is a real thing but the risk to humans is extremely low. The human cases are those that virtually live with poultry/birds around them 24/7 in very poor conditions. Imagine living in a chicken house, breathing in all that ammonia and waste. That's not good for anyone.

Plus, the mammals that contracted this AI ate the sick and/or dead animals: The animals were found to have a mutation of the virus that could make it easier to infect mammals, but there was no evidence of transmission between mammals.

Is it something to worry about? No. Is it something to keep an eye on? Probably.......
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Good post, sorry I missed it when you originally said this.

www.cdc.gov

What Causes Bird Flu Virus Infections in Humans

Avian influenza A viruses usually do not infect people, but there have been some rare human cases
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The spread of bird flu viruses from one infected person to a close contact is very rare, and when it has happened, it has only spread to a few people. However, because of the possibility that bird flu viruses could change and gain the ability to spread easily between people, monitoring for human infection and person-to-person spread is extremely important for public health.
 
Eeyore said:
A long time coming
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Short time coming. Up until the last few years when Facebook started to be considered research by people, raw milk was for a whole part illegal because there was a well documented risk of food poisoning ranging from salmonella to ecoli to staph. Milk is a nutrient rich base for all sorts of stuff to grow and become an issue. But, Facebook research says it will cure everything, so here we are. An absolute standard of public health now being tossed away. Drink away people and enjoy. I’ll take mine well pasteurized before the out date.
 
Goatman Saint said:
Short time coming. Up until the last few years when Facebook started to be considered research by people, raw milk was for a whole part illegal because there was a well documented risk of food poisoning ranging from salmonella to ecoli to staph. Milk is a nutrient rich base for all sorts of stuff to grow and become an issue. But, Facebook research says it will cure everything, so here we are. An absolute standard of public health now being tossed away. Drink away people and enjoy. I’ll take mine well pasteurized before the out date.
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Social media has taught me one thing. Some people are really dumb,stubborn or both. I still can't wrap my mind around
the amount of people who take medical advice on FB over real medical professionals. To those I will say the following
and bow out. No, Ivermectin did not protect you from Covid.
 
Having worked in food and beverage for quite some time, I learned that drinking milk without pasteurization is like eating raw pork. You will be fine until you aren't.

You lose vitamins when l you cook food - this is a fact. But who is going to eat raw pork or chicken to ensure that every mineral is preserved rather than cooking it to make it safe to eat?

The wild thing is pasteurization isn't invasive at all. It's just running the milk containers through a water bath. That is it. Hot Water over the bottle.

If one wants to reduce their chances of issues and still get the most out of dairy,; consume grass fed, non-homogenized milk.

Non-homogenized isn't easy to find but that to me is the larger area of concern than pasteurization; which is of no concern.

Homogenization takes the milk from every cow in the system and mixes it together- this can be 1000's of cows. Then it is pasteurized. When you have hundreds of cows, it is easier to spread illness or have whole lots of milk contaminated from a single cow.

In non homogenized milk you are ingesting the milk of one cow, or stable at most.

I just get whole milk, grass fed, and I don't worry about homogenization - it's too hard to find and very expensive. Corn fed, rBGH (bovine growth hormone) and antibiotic injected, industrial farm cow's milk is what I try to avoid. The milkfat is removed (and added back as an adjunct for whole or 2%), now with the sugars concentrated and water. Essentially turning milk into a sugar drink. Don't get me started on skim either. Overly processed, all the minerals are gone, as they are mostly found in the fat, and it has basically the same (15 g) sugar content as regular whole milk. So none of the benefit with twice the processing!
 
CoolBrees said:
Having worked in food and beverage for quite some time, I learned that drinking milk without pasteurization is like eating raw pork. You will be fine until you aren't.

You lose vitamins when l you cook food - this is a fact. But who is going to eat raw pork or chicken to ensure that every mineral is preserved rather than cooking it to make it safe to eat?

The wild thing is pasteurization isn't invasive at all. It's just running the milk containers through a water bath. That is it. Hot Water over the bottle.

If one wants to reduce their chances of issues and still get the most out of dairy,; consume grass fed, non-homogenized milk.

Non-homogenized isn't easy to find but that to me is the larger area of concern than pasteurization; which is of no concern.

Homogenization takes the milk from every cow in the system and mixes it together- this can be 1000's of cows. Then it is pasteurized. When you have hundreds of cows, it is easier to spread illness or have whole lots of milk contaminated from a single cow.

In non homogenized milk you are ingesting the milk of one cow, or stable at most.

I just get whole milk, grass fed, and I don't worry about homogenization - it's too hard to find and very expensive. Corn fed, rBGH (bovine growth hormone) and antibiotic injected, industrial farm cow's milk is what I try to avoid. The milkfat is removed (and added back as an adjunct for whole or 2%), now with the sugars concentrated and water. Essentially turning milk into a sugar drink. Don't get me started on skim either. Overly processed, all the minerals are gone, as they are mostly found in the fat, and it has basically the same (15 g) sugar content as regular whole milk. So none of the benefit with twice the processing!
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Or just don’t drink it as the whole got milk and milk drinking schtick has always been to support dairy farmers anyway.
 
Goatman Saint said:
Or just don’t drink it as the whole got milk and milk drinking schtick has always been to support dairy farmers anyway.
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True. If you don't want any dairy in your diet, that would be the way to go.

However, most of your nut milks, etc are no better for you than regular milk. Some are worse.

You are adding in emulsification to the process; which is a centrifuge to spin down and separate the lipid fats. The separation agents used to speed up and uniformly distribute the lipid back in can use bonding agents to keep it from separating in the packaging.

None of the nut mills are good sources of protein and so they fortify (read: add artificially) with it to match dairy. This too requires emulsion.

Plus almonds are goitrogenic - they can cause problems with the thyroid and people struggling with weight issues can actually worsen their problems because of it.
 

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