Daylight Saving Time possibly permanent 11/2023 (2 Viewers)

[nolastyle]

13 hour night of work. We can't get rid of it fast enough.

 

[Taurus]

The good news: You will get a glorious extra hour of sleep. The bad: It’ll be dark as a pocket by late afternoon for the next few months in the U.S.

Daylight saving time ends at 2 a.m. local time next Sunday, Nov. 3, which means you should set your clock back an hour before you go to bed. Standard time will last until March 9 when we will again “spring forward” with the return of daylight saving time.

That spring time change can be tougher on your body. Darker mornings and lighter evenings can knock your internal body clock out of whack, making it harder to fall asleep on time for weeks or longer. Studies have even found an uptick in heart attacks and strokes right after the March time change.

“Fall back” should be easier. But it still may take a while to adjust your sleep habits, not to mention the downsides of leaving work in the dark or trying exercise while there’s still enough light. Some people with seasonal affective disorder, a type of depression usually linked to the shorter days and less sunlight of fall and winter, may struggle, too.



Some health groups, including the American Medical Association and American Academy of Sleep Medicine, have said it’s time to do away with time switches and that sticking with standard time aligns better with the sun — and human biology.

Most countries do not observe daylight saving time. For those that do — mostly in Europe and North America — the date that clocks are changed varies.

Two states — Arizona and Hawaii — don’t change and stay on standard time.

Here’s what to know about the twice yearly ritual.

How the body reacts to light

The brain has a master clock that is set by exposure to sunlight and darkness. This circadian rhythm is a roughly 24-hour cycle that determines when we become sleepy and when we’re more alert. The patterns change with age, one reason that early-to-rise youngsters evolve into hard-to-wake teens.


Morning light resets the rhythm. By evening, levels of a hormone called melatonin begin to surge, triggering drowsiness. Too much light in the evening — that extra hour from daylight saving time — delays that surge and the cycle gets out of sync.

And that circadian clock affects more than sleep, also influencing things like heart rate, blood pressure, stress hormones and metabolism.

How do time changes affect sleep?

Even an hour change on the clock can throw off sleep schedules — because even though the clocks change, work and school start times stay the same.

That’s a problem because so many people are already sleep deprived. About 1 in 3 U.S. adults sleep less than the recommended seven-plus hours nightly, and more than half of U.S. teens don’t get the recommended eight-plus hours on weeknights.……

Daylight saving time ends Sunday. Time to 'fall back' an hour

It's time to move clocks back on Sunday. Daylight saving time ends in the U.S. at 2 a.m. local time, which means setting your clock back an hour.

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But if daylight savings were permanent, there wouldn't be that change and our circadian cycles would settle on a new normal. Why these jerks want to rob us of an extra hour of daylight after work is beyond me.

 

[Bill]

The problem for those who would rather not observe it is that there's no practical way to avoid it when your employer and everything else in the country follows the time. Only option is to move to a state or country that doesn't observe it.

In just trying to find a state who is intelligent enough to have Daylight Saving Time ALL THE TIME.
I just don't understand the ignorance of not wanting to have whatever available daylight there is to be later in the day WHEN PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY USE IT!
But since politicians are involved, I suppose this mindless stupidity is to be expected.

 

[faceman]

But if daylight savings were permanent, there wouldn't be that change and our circadian cycles would settle on a new normal. Why these jerks want to rob us of an extra hour of daylight after work is beyond me.

Whilst the cacadian cycle is true, permanent DST would mean 9am sunrises in our northern most states. I can only
speak for myself,but I do sleep better when we are on standard time. The spring forward is rough on me. It takes
me a few weeks to fully adjust,and it's getting worse as I get older.

 

[Bill]

Whilst the cacadian cycle is true, permanent DST would mean 9am sunrises in our northern most states. I can only
speak for myself,but I do sleep better when we are on standard time. The spring forward is rough on me. It takes
me a few weeks to fully adjust,and it's getting worse as I get older.

None of us should have to adjust anytime.
Just leave the benefit of longer light in the evening by never switching it back to the TOMB of 5pm darkness.
People would feel perfectly comfortable if they would just keep the DST all year long.

 

[faceman]

None of us should have to adjust anytime.
Just leave the benefit of longer light in the evening by never switching it back to the TOMB of 5pm darkness.
People would feel perfectly comfortable if they would just keep the DST all year long.

some consider 8am the tomb of darkness. Once again, we just have to deal with the shorter days of
Winter. Permanent or not, it's not going to satisfy everyone.

 

[Bill]

some consider 8am the tomb of darkness. Once again, we just have to deal with the shorter days of
Winter. Permanent or not, it's not going to satisfy everyone.

Yes, how we all love that pretty sunshine in early morning when we are sitting in school buildings and in our work facilities and can't do anything to enjoy it or get our personal outdoor activities done after work.

 

[Arathrael]

Yes, how we all love that pretty sunshine in early morning when we are sitting in school buildings and in our work facilities and can't do anything to enjoy it or get our personal outdoor activities done after work.

I kind of feel like a sane society would leave time where it is and adjust work/school/etc. timing during the winter. Or, even better, just work shorter hours and finish earlier during the winter. I mean it's winter! I'm not saying we should all hibernate, but we could at least dial it back a bit.

 

[Rysilk]

I work 6 am to 3 PM EST with a 35 minute commute, so I wake up at 4:45 AM. I haven't seen the sun rise in the morning in 20 years.

 

[Taurus]

some consider 8am the tomb of darkness. Once again, we just have to deal with the shorter days of
Winter. Permanent or not, it's not going to satisfy everyone.

Well, yeah.

That hour doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference on December mornings. It's dark when you wake up either way. But with DST there's a tiny sliver of opportunity to do something outside before sundown.

With standard time, I wake up in the dark, go to work in the dark and come home in the dark.

 

[Saint_Ward]

Well, yeah.

That hour doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference on December mornings. It's dark when you wake up either way. But with DST there's a tiny sliver of opportunity to do something outside before sundown.

With standard time, I wake up in the dark, go to work in the dark and come home in the dark.

Not up north. Dark by 4pm.

Honestly. Staying in standard time makes more sense. And just waking up earlier, as needed.

I showed this graphically a few years back on this thread.

 

[Madmarsha]

I already put this in the memes thread but this is the better place for it, I think.

 

[TheRealJRad]

All this arguing about which time is better is exactly what Big Clock wants

 

[St. Widge]

It's so dumb. No time cop will convince me otherwise.

Not even this Time Cop: