Do we as Saints fans concentrate on the negative? (1 Viewer)

[dempsey3]

I keep reading thread after thread of Payton is an idiot, he has to go. Payton's play calling is suspect, he just doesn't get. My personal favorite he tries to get to cute or tricky. While I would agree his aggressive play calling can get frustrating I personally prefer an aggressive coach.

Now let's take a little closer look at this suspect play calling. For the moment forget that the Saints have had a Top 5 offense all 3 years. The Saints offense on an average run 67 plays a game, now out of those plays how many are cute or tricky 1 maybe 2. It is really hard to tell because we seem to readily forget the ones that work and never forget the ones that don't.

The biggest play remember from last year: The end around pitch from Reggie to Devery, right.

This year appears to be The 4-1 sweep.

When it's 3-4 and Drew throws a long ball to Colston and it is unsuccessful we scream why why man Payton You blow but if in that same circumstance Drew throws a seam route to Devery for 45 yards there is a brief celebration and it is time to move on.

So I ask are we concentrating on the negative when these cute/tricky plays make up 1.5% of Sean Payton's playcalling.

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[duckjr78]

No. Wait, that was negative.

Absolutly, we are negative. Watch any other NFL game and you will see one team executing and one not. Sometimes you are gonna be the team not. Under SP the Saints have a winning record. That is all I need to know.

 

[Ti Rider]

No more negative than any other fanbase. Which is amazing considering the team's history. You don't read too much here focusing on the negative from '06 do you? The Saints were hyped as Superbowl contender in '07 only to see it all come crashing down. It would be hard not to remember/discuss the moment it did. Same for this season....4 and 1 was a turning point for the team. If the Saints were in the playoffs you wouldn't hear a thing about those plays. Win and for the most part it's all sunshine and roses, lose and you get discussion on why the team lost. It's as simple as that.......

 

[Saint Jeremy]

Yes.

 

[The Rookie]

We live in a cynical age. We've had some great memories from this season: Reggie's two punt returns in the MN game; Deuce setting the TD record; the Green Bay monday nighter; Brees almost all year long; Lance Moore.

If this team goes 9-7, it'll go down as one of the best teams in the franchise's history. It's easy to say..."well, it's just the Saints." But still, we ain't had all that much to cheer about as fans of this team in its history. You gotta find the silver lining.

 

[wstmnrbmw]

Playoffs will make us positive. Until then we have to be negative because it's the opposite of positive. I'm sick of losing, year after year after year, so I have good reason to be a bit on the negative side.

 

[504and757saint]

yes but we have reason to be (ex: vikings game )

 

[CAVALIER]

Negative? We have the number one offense inthe NFL and we can't get into the playoffs....I'm sorry if I'm not happy about that. Maybe this should be like Saddam Iraq where we should come on here and talk about how happy we are we are out of the playoffs and how this defense is better than the dome patrol....

 

[diehardfan]

Only when the team plays that way.

 

[dat dam dog]

Negative. Now and then.

Cute? Yes, it aggravates me.

I like the fancy plays, but the coach pulls them at the wrong time.

Like last years loss to TB on the fumbled end around/reverse when we should have been finishing running out the clock. Cute.

Earlier this year we had trouble on 4th, and actually ran, yes, an end around on 4th down and one, for a loss of yards. Cute.

No short blast from Deuce or Karney or anyone else.

There are more examples of this from coach, but on short notice I don't know them, LOL

Why oh why can't we just put it away, the game or a 1st down.

This gets maddening because we eventually lose these games by a close score and hurt our playoff chances.

And our record is maddeningly close, except when we get cute. You see, those are the ones that stick in my mind, that are hard to shake off. 'We coulda been a contender', apologies to Brando.


ddd

 

[saints2k8]

The negatives with this team are whats stopping us from winning a superbowl..so I can't blame anybody who wants to talk about them. Bring them to light over and over..get medias to talk about them..and maybe it could pressure the big guys to make changes. It's worth a shot..

 

[AARPSaint]

Given the overall history of the franchise, how can Saints fans NOT be negative? The Saints have never even gotten past the NFC Championship game.

How about the Hail Mary passes that have won games for the opposition, the inexperienced QB's who have looked like John Elway ONLY against the Saints, the number of formerly winless teams who have won for the first time playing the Saints, the River City Relay followed by a missed extra point, an opposing QB fumbling the snap of a two-point conversion and scoring anyway, a right handed QB throwing a left-handed TD pass against the Saints (Steve DeBerg), a WR spiking the ball at the one yard line and still getting credit for a TD, a WR gaining 332 yard on the Saints in one game???...and so on.

 

[Riadric]

Every team's fans do that. When the Panthers lose the local boards want to start overhauling the team starting with the head coach down to the ballboys. Case in point is our loss to the Giants Sunday night. You would have thought it was the end of the world and other than DW everyone got tossed under the bus. No one looked at it like this: You just played the Super Bowl champs to OT on their homefield in bad weather conditions and a hostile (It's freakin' NY) atmosphere and yes, you gave up 300 yards rushing but if Kasay is 2 ft to the left it's a win. Fans usually don't look at stuff like that.

So consider Saints fans like every other team's fans. When you win, my God, the sun is brighter, the air is cleaner and all your players should be in the Pro Bowl. When you lose... well, that bus is getting closer... I wonder if I can fit that 300 lb lineman and some of his teammates under there?

 

[SAINTS 12]

Every team's fans do that. When the Panthers lose the local boards want to start overhauling the team starting with the head coach down to the ballboys. Case in point is our loss to the Giants Sunday night. You would have thought it was the end of the world and other than DW everyone got tossed under the bus. No one looked at it like this: You just played the Super Bowl champs to OT on their homefield in bad weather conditions and a hostile (It's freakin' NY) atmosphere and yes, you gave up 300 yards rushing but if Kasay is 2 ft to the left it's a win. Fans usually don't look at stuff like that.

So consider Saints fans like every other team's fans. When you win, my God, the sun is brighter, the air is cleaner and all your players should be in the Pro Bowl. When you lose... well, that bus is getting closer... I wonder if I can fit that 300 lb lineman and some of his teammates under there?

its called being a FAN ! every team has fans who can coach from the CHAIR! Myself i havent lost a game in my life i make all the right PLAY CALLS!

 

[lrayblu]

The Saints are why i play the Blues for money.... Their a blues mans team...