Saints met with QB Shedeur Sanders [Deion Sanders ok with Saints drafting Shedeur]

Should the Saints draft QB Shedeur Sanders if he falls to #9?

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JBofWDN said:
If you really believe he has a strong arm, Its hard to believe that you've actually watch any games he's played in and that's okay. He isn't even the most mobile QB, either. His whole game is about mechanics & footwork, good decision throws, and what seems like a good understanding of defensive schemes (at least at the college level). If you watch any Cam Ward games, you can clearly see the athleticism, off-schedule throws/trick plays, and arm strength, but he definitely isn't as "nimble" in the pocket or calculated as Sanders. Win or lose, Sanders plays with what seems to be more visible urgency and technicality than Cam, and I think that's something that will make him a better pro than having a big arm with raw talent.

If you have the time, I strongly suggest watching the CU vs CState game in 23'. Great game and a good showcase of Sanders' strengths and weaknesses. Also, that was the game Dallin Holker played himself into the NFL.
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Well this is a condescending and ignorant post. I've absolutely watched Sanders play plenty and he can sling it if he wants to. He chooses to throw a catchable pass. Maybe you should watch the NDSU game? It sounds like you honestly read some scouting reports and are regurgitating what they say. They said the same exact thing about Dillion Gabriel until he broke the record by a mile for ball speed at the Reece's Bowl. And Sanders footwork is not impressive at all. He lacks massive pocket awareness that can be seen throughout most of his 2024 games. 2023 isn't worth going back to for an assessment of who he is now because in college QB's grow a lot year by year. Going back to 2023 is to assess how much he grew, to determine how coachable he may be.
 
3ParStillDriver said:
Well this is a condescending and ignorant post. I've absolutely watched Sanders play plenty and he can sling it if he wants to. He chooses to throw a catchable pass. Maybe you should watch the NDSU game? It sounds like you honestly read some scouting reports and are regurgitating what they say. They said the same exact thing about Dillion Gabriel until he broke the record by a mile for ball speed at the Reece's Bowl. And Sanders footwork is not impressive at all. He lacks massive pocket awareness that can be seen throughout most of his 2024 games. 2023 isn't worth going back to for an assessment of who he is now because in college QB's grow a lot year by year. Going back to 2023 is to assess how much he grew, to determine how coachable he may be.
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Does Colorado have a good offensive line?
 
Tulsa Saint said:
Could ask Dallas how badly they want him and pick someone like Warren at 12 plus pick up at least 2 3rds(76 and a 2026 one)

That IS an option
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This would make sense. We need more picks. I hope the team realizes more early picks is better in this draft than most, the draft is not top heavy.
 
I just don't like this class of QBs. There isn't a single guy I feel comfortable with drafting early. This is one of the most Saints things ever. The Saints finally have a relatively high pick for the first time in years and they need a QB so naturally the QB crop is suspect. That's just the way it goes.

A few of these guys might be solid starters. A few of them might make a Pro Bowl. Hell, one might end up in Canton for all we know. I just don't have a great feeling about any of them. All this talk of Ward, Sanders, Ewers, and Jaxson Dart has me feeling a bit nervous. It would be so easy for a QB needy team with a new HC to talk themselves into believing QB is the right move. They might even convince themselves that they need to trade up into the top 3 in order to get their guy. All logic and reason is thrown out the window when teams need a QB.

But I'm not going to worry about. If the Saints draft a QB I'll come straight to the SSF and watch highlights and expert breakdowns. I'll watch as we convince ourselves and each other that the Saints made the right move. We'll come to the conclusion that trading up for Sanders or Ward was really the only logical move they could make. Someone will call the pick the steal of the draft and someone else will concur. I'll take my seat in the conductor's chair and get the hype train ready to roll. Hope for the future will overcome any reservations I had before the draft.
 
jasonsw said:
That's the old big 12. They are not even the same conference anymore
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Nah it's still the same.
Playing defense is still optional.
But we can agree to disagree though.
 
3ParStillDriver said:
Well this is a condescending and ignorant post. I've absolutely watched Sanders play plenty and he can sling it if he wants to. He chooses to throw a catchable pass. Maybe you should watch the NDSU game? It sounds like you honestly read some scouting reports and are regurgitating what they say. They said the same exact thing about Dillion Gabriel until he broke the record by a mile for ball speed at the Reece's Bowl. And Sanders footwork is not impressive at all. He lacks massive pocket awareness that can be seen throughout most of his 2024 games. 2023 isn't worth going back to for an assessment of who he is now because in college QB's grow a lot year by year. Going back to 2023 is to assess how much he grew, to determine how coachable he may be.
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That wasn't intended to be condescending. I'll take compliment to my personal opinon sounding similar to a scouting report; the opinon obviously isn't ignorant.

Sure, he can sling it when he needs to, as referenced by the NDSU game, but I don't belive most would classify it as a "big arm". His game is defined by being a pocket passer throwing the touch passes (or "throwing catchable balls" as you put it), and piloting his offense with more of a technical approach, overall, instead of the big-arm, no brains QB picture you painted. 65.9%, 70.6%, 68.3%, and 74% completion percentage from 21-24. Discount his previous years if you want, but his last year shows the growth you're looking for at 74% That's a big stretch saying he isn't accurate. To be that accurate, you need to have good mechanics, high football IQ, etc. regardless of what recievers you have or conference you play in.
 
Hedon James said:
But to suggest it's entirely on coaching/support is a little disengenuous. IMO, it IS up to the player. You can provide the BEST coaching/support the NFL has to offer, but without the player absorbing/implementing that support, the result is the same.
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The thing is, if you don't use the coaching/support as a universal excuse for QB failure, you also have to confront the fact regarding a QB who has failed.

And that's unpalatable for someone who needs to keep making excuses for their favourite player. On the discussion boards of every team he plays for, no less. Those lucky East Rutherford folks are next...
 

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