Dont go down rabbit holes trying to match offensive talent with Kellen Moore (9 Viewers)

[Randy Jones]

Posters should not make the mistake of trying to match qb or offensive talent with a Moore’s style of offensive scheme. He will adjust his scheme to the talent available which is probably why he will be successful.

 

[No2DC]

He's the new HC who has an offensive background. Why wouldn't the FO try and adapt to the scheme he wants to run? Obviously, he will adapt to who we have after the draft and free agency but the team will be built in accordance to his vision over the next couple of years.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. Yes he has shown he is capable of adapting the offense to his players, but at some point, he will want players who have characteristics that can do the things that he wants to accomplish on offense. For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.

 

[kennydfresh]

Posters should not make the mistake of trying to match qb or offensive talent with a Moore’s style of offensive scheme. He will adjust his scheme to the talent available which is probably why he will be successful.

"What...Bro what are you talking about?" Russell Westbrook

 

[Randy Jones]

The point is when trying to match a qb rb wr or ol to his offens, it is irrelevant, since he doesn't have an offense style.

 

[Saintly Marine]

I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. Yes he has shown he is capable of adapting the offense to his players, but at some point, he will want players who have characteristics that can do the things that he wants to accomplish on offense. For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.

Did any of you catch the ESPN short podcast on the reporters discussing kellen moore. Then the other commentator asked? So lets deep dive into Who Kellen Moore is. 2nd commentator, responds, well besides being the Winningest QB in college football at 50-3. He was 17 when they started going after him (Boise St) and he shows up his first day with a FULL BINDER of various offensive plays from yrs of pulling data of tapes, online, etc and coaches from connections with his dad. WOW. When have we ever heard something like this from any player. I was impressed. IMO

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Did any of you catch the ESPN short podcast on the reporters discussing kellen moore. Then the other commentator asked? So lets deep dive into Who Kellen Moore is. 2nd commentator, responds, well besides being the Winningest QB in college football at 50-3. He was 17 when they started going after him (Boise St) and he shows up his first day with a FULL BINDER of various offensive plays from yrs of pulling data of tapes, online, etc and coaches from connections with his dad. WOW. When have we ever heard something like this from any player. I was impressed. IMO

Yep. Ross Jackson also told that story on WWL TV I belive. He has a super smart football mind. It’s that kind of drive that’s the reason he’s a head coach in the NFL at 36 years old. It’s not 30 like mcvay (which is just absurd) but that’s damn young.

 

[meily]

Posters should not make the mistake of trying to match QB or offensive talent with Moore’s style of the offensive scheme. He will adjust his scheme to the talent available which is probably why he will be successful.

Every coach has a scheme; he needs the talent to execute his scheme and vision; adjusting to the talent does not mean he can make marginal talent produce. It means he can draw up something a marginal player can execute.

We all should know this because we've seen CSP make chicken salad out of chicken s&#t.

 

[Randy Jones]

I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. Yes he has shown he is capable of adapting the offense to his players, but at some point, he will want players who have characteristics that can do the things that he wants to accomplish on offense. For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.

“For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.“
You dont know this for certain. He may be able to adapt an offense to a pocket passer.

 

[Randy Jones]

Every coach has a scheme; he needs the talent to execute his scheme and vision; adjusting to the talent does not mean he can make marginal talent produce. It means he can draw up something a marginal player can execute.

We all should know this because we've seen CSP make chicken salad out of chicken s&#t.

No. That is not our HC. That is just a myth.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

“For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.“
You dont know this for certain. He may be able to adapt an offense to a pocket passer.

What does the word ‘if’ mean?

 

[Snakehead]

I'll do what I want, thanks.

We are about to find our what CKM'S offense is now that he has his own team to build it.

 

[Randy Jones]

What does the word ‘if’ mean?

Ask the poster?

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Ask the poster?

I was giving a completely hypothetical example to further explain my position, not stating a fact.

 

[Saintly Marine]

“For example, if he prefers a quarterback who is at least a little mobile, we need to get a quarterback who is at least a little mobile.“
You dont know this for certain. He may be able to adapt an offense to a pocket passer.

What about this Scenario..Some of you guys are better at the contracts and cap numbers. BUT>>Assume for stability purposes, could Moore stay with Carr for a year, and buy time to develop Rattler? Could even Draft a mid rd QB if needed? Really don't think a coach is going to push out a Starting QB..He is going take what is given and then you readjust the pieces as needed to buy time into the future. FWIW. Could then Use Carr as an asset later..Either he shows you he fits your scheme or doesn't? Carr has had way too many OC in his career, and that is an asset many are over looking as well.