Draft Gurus…cost of trading up to #6? (46 Viewers)

[sammymvpknight]

If one of Ward or Sanders falls to 9 I can see it, but let’s be real that isn’t happening.

Sanders absolutely could fall. There is a wide variety of outcomes for him. I personally think he’ll bust so I wouldn’t even want him at 9.

 

[sammymvpknight]

Will Campbell will be my pick 10 out of 10 times.

Puts Fuaga in his natural position and slide Penning in at guard.

That line healthy is top 10.

Fuaga is the only guy I would trust in that scenario. There are lots of people concerned about Campbell at LT. I honestly wouldn’t make any plans contingent on Penning being a starter. But Campbell at least could likely play guard well…but no way am I trading up for a gusrd

 

[oodank]

Saints do not have a 1st round grade on Sanders and wouldn’t take him at 9 much less trade up for him per Underhill.

He's been wrong before, like recently...I'm starting to believe these local reporters are not as connected to the Saints as they used to be.

 

[soggymoss84]

He's been wrong before, like recently...I'm starting to believe these local reporters are not as connected to the Saints as they used to be.

What has he been wrong about? If you’re talking about the Carr situation he’s not wrong, the words they used came straight out of Loomis’ mouth

 

[reason2believe]

Saints do not have a 1st round grade on Sanders and wouldn’t take him at 9 much less trade up for him per Underhill.

I really hope this is true. I am not a draft expert but I don’t see top 10 value with Sanders.

 

[2cmorgan]

On the surface that sounds right but next year is the final year of his contract,
Mr. don't take a pay cut is due $50 million in salary in 2026 (plus the pro rated signing bonus).
Mr. don't take a pay cut already has $40 million in in dead cap the following year in 2027.
In other words unless they extend him he will count $50+ million in dead cap whether they take the hit next year or kick the can one more time.
If he has a guy he loves you absolutely take a QB in the 1st. Sounds like Ward is the only one that might fit that category & he will be long gone.

Why should he or would he take a pay cut?

 

[Booker]

You're posting this right after they fully guaranteed $40 million to Carr? There is zero chance they are taking a QB in the 1st.

Not necessarily. Carr's restructure helps the team get under the cap this year, but next year they can make him a June 1 cut and split his dead money in 2026 and 2027, and having a quarterback on a rookie deal would make that much easier to do.

 

[texasjefe]

Some might think that Carr should've taken a paycut because the performance value is less than the contract.

But, the Saints committed him the money which makes them 100% responsible for the contract. If Derek took a paycut, every NFL player, including his own teammates would be enraged that Derek selfishly decided to devolve the market, not expand it, and he bowed down to the employer. Every player agent would be furious too. This is business and NFL offseason can be very nasty business.

Alot of you don't like Mickey being criticized, but if you hate the money allocated to Carr, that is 100% Mickey's fault, not any head coach, i.e. Dennis Allen wanted Carr, and Lookis fulfilled his coach's wish.

Derek Carr was always WYSIWYG. The Saints were desperate for a starter after the first two post-Sean years were non-viable at QB. They signed Carr but the Allen-Carr bet was a loser and the house (salary cap closed off by dead cap) will collect in 2026 or 2027.

 

[SaintStephen1]

I would trade up for Ward, if not trade down in all of the first three rounds. Need lots of young cheap talent not just three players. Can leave this draft with 10-12 players with 6-7 in first three rounds if play their cards right.

 

[Treybad]

I would trade up for Ward, if not trade down in all of the first three rounds. Need lots of young cheap talent not just three players. Can leave this draft with 10-12 players with 6-7 in first three rounds if play their cards right.

Trade for picks in next year's draft when can first.... this year's draft is pretty weak

 

[SuperSaint]

Don't understand the 'Move Penning to guard' thing.

There's no data anywhere that says he could do that successfully.

It would most likely break his brain, and we would lose whatever we have in him now.