Dune: Prophecy - Max Series (1 Viewer)

[St. Widge]

Max is making a Dune prequel, Dune: Prophecy, which is based on the novel, Dune: Sisterhood, which was written by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, and Kevin J. Anderson. I've read the book and it was good. It's more or less the story of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonen sisters. Hopefully this will be a good adaptation but I do have some concerns that if you don't know the history of the Harkonen's and the Atreides back to the beginning it might not make complete sense. I would think they will use the art direction of the newer Dune movies for sets, costumes, etc. The show is supposed to premier this Fall and the trailer is below.

 

[Saintman2884]

Max is making a Dune prequel, Dune: Prophecy, which is based on the novel, Dune: Sisterhood, which was written by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, and Kevin J. Anderson. I've read the book and it was good. It's more or less the story of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonen sisters. Hopefully this will be a good adaptation but I do have some concerns that if you don't know the history of the Harkonen's and the Atreides back to the beginning it might not make complete sense. I would think they will use the art direction of the newer Dune movies for sets, costumes, etc. The show is supposed to premier this Fall and the trailer is below.

I think this prequel's storyline takes place like hundreds of years before the events depicted in both Dune films so far?

The Bene Gesserit have always struck me as a darker, maybe more malevolent, mostly female-only Jedi Order whose goals tend to be farsighted and achievable in centuries, not decades as one of them said in the first film. I don't think Paul Atreides' mother really were on the best of terms with their top leadership in the first film, in fact wasnt she banished for disobeying their orders by getting married and having a son?

 

[St. Widge]

I think this prequel's storyline takes place like hundreds of years before the events depicted in both Dune films so far?

The Bene Gesserit have always struck me as a darker, maybe more malevolent, mostly female-only Jedi Order whose goals tend to be farsighted and achievable in centuries, not decades as one of them said in the first film. I don't think Paul Atreides' mother really were on the best of terms with their top leadership in the first film, in fact wasnt she banished for disobeying their orders by getting married and having a son?

I think it might actually be thousands of years before the Dune films. The Dune universe is on a very long time line and yes, the Bene Gesserit have a very, very long time line for their plans and they have a very specific goal that I will not spoil.

Lady Jessica was still a Bene Gesserit Sister, but they were not happy with her because she was supposed to give birth to a female Atreides child that would be married to a Harkonen male, likely Fade, to move forward the Bene Gesserit plan to eventually produce the Kwisatz Haderach. Instead Jessica gave birth to a son, Paul, because Leto wanted a son and Jessica fell in love with Leto. The major issue the Bene Gesserit had was Paul was not under control of the Bene Gesserit and not who they expected to be the Kwisatz Haderach (and maybe he really isn't, but that's a whole other story).

By the way, Jessica was not married to Leto, she was his sworn concubine which was a deal arranged by the Bene Gesserit. It's just that she was supposed to have Leto's daughter, not his son.

By the way, this complexity in back story and relations is why it is so difficult to make the Dune movies. There is so much background untold and, while I loved the new movies, they left out quite a bit or at least didn't bring it to the forefront. Specifically things like the nature of religion, the nature of power, environmentalism, the dangers of A.I., etc. Though the religious stuff comes more into play in Dune: Messiah.

 

[Saintman2884]

I think it might actually be thousands of years before the Dune films. The Dune universe is on a very long time line and yes, the Bene Gesserit have a very, very long time line for their plans and they have a very specific goal that I will not spoil.

Lady Jessica was still a Bene Gesserit Sister, but they were not happy with her because she was supposed to give birth to a female Atreides child that would be married to a Harkonen male, likely Fade, to move forward the Bene Gesserit plan to eventually produce the Kwisatz Haderach. Instead Jessica gave birth to a son, Paul, because Leto wanted a son and Jessica fell in love with Leto. The major issue the Bene Gesserit had was Paul was not under control of the Bene Gesserit and not who they expected to be the Kwisatz Haderach (and maybe he really isn't, but that's a whole other story).

By the way, Jessica was not married to Leto, she was his sworn concubine which was a deal arranged by the Bene Gesserit. It's just that she was supposed to have Leto's daughter, not his son.

By the way, this complexity in back story and relations is why it is so difficult to make the Dune movies. There is so much background untold and, while I loved the new movies, they left out quite a bit or at least didn't bring it to the forefront. Specifically things like the nature of religion, the nature of power, environmentalism, the dangers of A.I., etc. Though the religious stuff comes more into play in Dune: Messiah.

They sorted of hinted or made vague, opaque references to how dangerous and destructive the nature and trappings of power, how messianic religious zeal in a cult of personality at several points in the first two films, but yeah, I do agree that these themes will be focused on more extensively and in more detail in future films. Their were a few scattered mentions by some of Zendaya's people about how centuries of spice exploration, farming, and exploitation had hurt and damaged their planet's eco-system, but they were more passing comments that werent touched on or elaborated further.

Widge, great, informative, highly detailed response to my earlier questions above. Truly a cut above, I really appreciate it. Thank you for the link to the Dune prequel TV series, it appears that it might be very interesting and fill in some huge character arc, plot developments fans of the films may not be aware of because their unfamiliar with Herbert's Dune novels.

 

[St. Widge]

The prequel is apparently set 10,000 years prior to the Dune movies.