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On Tuesday morning last week, Italian police officers confronted a 19-year-old tourist at the Leaning Tower of Pisa — not for taking a criminally cliché photo pretending to prop up the tower, but for carving a heart and initials into the priceless structure.

Following her confession at the police station, the French visitor was reported to the public prosecutor’s office for damaging a piece of Italian national heritage, according to the police report.

It wasn’t the first time this summer that a tourist was caught engraving their initials into a UNESCO World Heritage site. It wasn’t even the second or third. Italian police are investigating two separate cases of tourists defacing the Colosseum in Rome — both of which were caught on video. And in July, a 17-year-old Canadian admitted to scratching his name and initials into an 8th-century temple in Japan’s Nara prefecture.

Then there were the less personalized acts of vandalism, like the tourist who allegedly damaged unique geological landforms in China, or the two who climbed into a fountain in northern Italy and destroyed a $220,000 statue. And don’t forget the tourists who keep messing with wild animals at national parks, attacking flight attendants and getting drunk, naked and violent in Bali.

Given the mounting evidence, this feels like the summer of bad tourists. But without a global database of tourist mischief, there isn’t a clear consensus on whether travelers are actually behaving worse than in summers past.
What is clear, according to academics, psychologists and travel industry professionals, is that tourists are frequently going rogue.

Kirsty Sedgman — an academic specializing in human behavior and the author of “On Being Unreasonable: Breaking the Rules and Making Things Better” — says there’s plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest “a growing proportion of people are feeling as if they should be able to do whatever they want,” particularly when it comes to travel.

When people have spent a lot of time and money to plan and take a vacation, Sedgman says they’re more likely to believe they’re entitled to experience it how they like — manners, rules and social norms notwithstanding.
“I call it ‘don’t-tell-me-what-to-do-itis,’” she says. “There’s this real sense of ‘You shouldn’t be allowed to tell me what I should be doing.’”

It’s an issue Catherine Heald, chief executive of the Asia-focused luxury tour operator Remote Lands, is also seeing more of, notably with her Japan itineraries. While she says most of her clients are “really nice,” Heald’s been dealing with more of them throwing fits over local customs — like taking shoes off to walk on tatami mats or abiding by restaurant reservation policies — despite multiple briefings ahead of time.

“They love Japanese food, they want to go to Japan, they want to go to the best restaurants, but they don’t want to follow the rules,” Heald says. “And if we don’t want to follow the rules, we shouldn’t go.”

Former flight attendant Shawn Kathleen, who created the popular Instagram account Passenger Shaming, has noticed a similar sentiment in air travel and vehemently believes the situation is worsening.

“[People] think they have the right to fly and the right to sit where they want and the right to put their feet up on your headrest … but they don’t,” Kathleen says. “The cost of your ticket does not entitle you to treat the airplane as if it’s your living room.”.............

Bonior believes social media plays a huge role shaping how we perceive unruly tourists. Thanks to the speed of the internet and our unquenchable thirst for content, “when this bad behavior happens, we hear about it more,” she says. “Twenty-five years ago, if someone did anything boneheaded, it wouldn’t spread to millions of people.”

However, Bonior says that since the pandemic started, we’re more anxious, our threat response is heightened and we’re more sensitive to what we see as threats and slights. That’s resulted in “diminishing civility and increased coarseness in our culture,” she says. Travelers are lashing out, but the examples span into movie theaters, on Broadway and in concert venues..............



 
Every so often, tourists in Chichén Itzá try to climb the temple of Kukulcan (which is prohibited) for social media fame, but they get greeted accordingly when they climb down.


I don't speak Spanish so couldn't understand if more happened to her, but seems like she got off light if only having water thrown on her. Please tell me more happened to her.
 
I don't speak Spanish so couldn't understand if more happened to her, but seems like she got off light if only having water thrown on her. Please tell me more happened to her.
I don't know what happened to her, but there is a fine one would have to pay to be let of out the country (as I understand it).

It's not the only case, though. It has happened on a few occasions, and the response from the other tourists, even international tourists, has been refreshing. Here's the last one I know of, a Polish tourist got a stick to the head.

 
Every so often, tourists in Chichén Itzá try to climb the temple of Kukulcan (which is prohibited) for social media fame, but they get greeted accordingly when they climb down.



does she feel shame for her disrespectful act and realizes the grave error she made or does she think she's been unfairly and viciously victimized?
 
does she feel shame for her disrespectful act and realizes the grave error she made or does she think she's been unfairly and viciously victimized?
Do you really have to ask?
Maybe I'm just cynical, but anytime I see these people apologize I think the apology is self-serving and not genuine
 
does she feel shame for her disrespectful act and realizes the grave error she made or does she think she's been unfairly and viciously victimized?

I don't know for sure, but I guess when you jump a rope and walk pass next to a sign that says "don't climb the stairs", then start climbing the stairs, while a crowd is shouting at you "don't climb the stairs", then you taunt the crowd with a little dance at the top, you should probably expect some level of violence when you come down :hihi:
 
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I don't know for sure, but I guess when you jump a rope and pass next to a sign that says "don't climb the stairs", then start climbing the stairs, while a crowd are shouting at you "don't climb the stairs", then you taunt the crowd with a little dance at the top, you should probably expect some level of violence when you come down :hihi:
Maybe that video should also go in the "Karen memes" thread. It's possible she was looking for the manager of the Temple to tell them that no rope can tell her what she can't do.
 
Do you really have to ask?
Maybe I'm just cynical, but anytime I see these people apologize I think the apology is self-serving and not genuine
At least whatever "apology" their giving is something, even if some of them feel rushed, or a tad self-serving, most people in these sorts of scenarios are going to try to seem as genuinely sorry and remorseful as possible, even if it comes across as melodramatic. They'll try to show as much contrition as possible to avoid receiving a harsher punishment or heavy fine. Physical punishment or verbal abuse might seem justifiable here to most knowledgable about the contextual situation, but if viewed within the prism of social media and out-of-context, beating or hitting a foreign tourist over the heads or parts of their bodies with sticks and rocks will come across as too extreme a punishment---and very dangerous.

As System explained earlier, making these idiotic, stupid tourists pay heavy fines to leave the country for their immature behavior is a much better deterrent to remind them to think twice before acting so recklessly again. Because while local villagers or area citizens might be understandably upset by young 18-19 college students/tourists breaking clearly-defined rules or warnings on signs, and yeah, I wouldn't blame most of them for wanting to smack some of them upside the head with sticks or stones, whenever you involve those kind of heavy, physical objects, their always a chance mob violence might break out and something more tragic occurs where a dumb, _______ student/tourist gets sent put in a coma or suffers another life-threatening injury because they were punished by locals for doing something stupid.

Or, to reference a more extreme, rarer examples: We don't need more Otto Warmbeir or Amanda Knox International incidents happening which leads to the State Department, two different POTUS, diplomats furiously and anxiously trying to find amenable solutions that will make enough people happy. At least Amanda Knox got to be able to return home after several years in an Italian prison, Otto Warmbier returned home from a North Korean dungeon in a dying, persistent vegetative state.
 
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I went to the Pallazo Te in Mantua
It’s this beautiful pallazo with frescos on all walls and ceilings (built 1500s)
I remember seeing a bunch of stuff carved into benches and walls - distinctly I remembered seeing a Name + Name from like 1787 - maybe it was someone more contemporary being all pranky, but it really felt like city by a place kids have carved into for centuries
 
The social media aspect is probably a huge factor as well

and I also hate when I go to a performance and I see people watching the whole thing through their phones

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.........Some of this wild behavior may also be influenced by the promise of going viral. On a more subtle level, social media can also inspire a “main character” mind-set, Bonior says.

“There’s an element of being the star of your own story,” Bonior says. “It’s a different mind-set than if you go travel somewhere and experience it as a passive observer.”

Steves says it’s been impacting his tours. He’s had to pause small concerts to tell his groups to stop recording on their phones. “Otherwise everybody’s going to be ignoring the music and jockeying for a good angle to get their selfie,” he says. “They’re not paying attention. They’re not in the moment. They’re missing the beauty of it.”

Sedgman agrees, adding that we’re incentivized to turn our lives — and our travels — into content. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok turned travel into social currency. Seeing a place as just a pretty post can distort the complicated reality.

Bonior recalls a recent viral TikTok video of a woman complaining that her trip to Italy’s Amalfi Coast was not as social media had promised. Getting to the famous destination required much more effort — flights, trains, ferries and hauling one’s suitcase up nearly 200 steps — than influencers made it appear.

“Travel by definition is complicated and effortful and sometimes stressful, but I think in our culture we want the sound bite, we want the one perfect Instagrammable shot,” Bonior says.............

 
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Until 2015, the Jesuit Stairs in Dubrovnik were just another beautiful example of Baroque architecture in the Croatian city. Then came the global HBO hit “Game of Thrones.”

Specifically, there was an episode of Season 5 that featured Cersei Lannister subject to a nude “walk of shame” down the Jesuit Stairs through Dubrovnik old town. Since the episode aired, fans have flocked to the landmark to re-create the scene, sometimes going so far as to strip in the process. It’s a disruptive nightmare for the neighborhood. There’s bell-ringing, people throwing objects at the shame-ee.

“They get pretty drunk and go around screaming ‘shame,’” says Dubrovnik tour guide Ivan Vukovic. “The people who live in the area have post traumatic shame disorder.”
 

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