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"Dr. Dre isn't inspired by modern hip-hop.

The 59-year-old rapper and producer admits that he has little interest in the genre at present because none of the material excites him.

Dre told Complex magazine: "I don't want to be disrespectful to anybody right now, but I'm not really inspired by what's happening with hip-hop these days.

"It's not for me. I've always said I'm not going to disrespect it or anything like that, but I haven't heard anything that makes me go, 'Fork*, why didn't I do that?' I haven't heard that in a long time, which makes my job easy, to be honest.""

uk.news.yahoo.com

'I'm not really inspired': Dr. Dre finds modern hip-hop dull

Dr. Dre has revealed that he is struggling to get excited about what is happening in the hip-hop genre.
uk.news.yahoo.com uk.news.yahoo.com
 
Had Socrates lived he’d have said the same about Aristotle

I loved Dre’s work
But I also really like Kendrick and Tyler and Steve Lacy, et al
(I also don’t care what Martin Scorsese has to say about modern movies)
 
guidomerkinsrules said:
Had Socrates lived he’d have said the same about Aristotle

I loved Dre’s work
But I also really like Kendrick and Tyler and Steve Lacy, et al
(I also don’t care what Martin Scorsese has to say about modern movies)
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But how long is the list of "et al"? I don't doubt that Dre likes those artists too. He's praised Kendrick Lamar in the past. But seriously, after a few names, how good is the quality of rap right now as a whole?

Lebron and Steph Curry are two of the best basketball players of all-time. Each is arguably the best player to ever play their respective positions. And barring injury, Victor Wembanyama will be one of the most spectacular players ever for the next 15 years. I can acknowledge that while also noting that the NBA as a whole is just not as good as it once was. Outside of some really phenomenal players doing some game changing stuff (like Kendrick or Tyler the Creator or Doechii), the rest is just not exciting to watch. And not to go on a tangent, it extends to college basketball where women's basketball is a much better product than the men's game right now (with better star power to boot).

I get the eye rolling over older generations saying things were better "back in my day", I don't think that's what he's doing. He's still DEEP in the rap game producing. He hears what's coming out as he's still an active participant, not some retired guy who doesn't know the name of the players he criticizing.

There was a time in hip-hop where there was truly diverse, innovative sounds emerging on the popular scene from all over from Arrested Development to Wu Tang Clan (I'm sure there's a Z that I'm overlooking for that analogy, ah well). I just don't hear that today. And I have tried. I have more music at my finger tips than I ever did and even with a teenager keeping my in the loop. The hip-hop scene is rough. I mean, I'm not commenting from the sideline. I'm going see Tyler in March and probably Kendrick too. I'm listening to new stuff, trying to anyway.
 
livefromDC said:
But how long is the list of "et al"? I don't doubt that Dre likes those artists too. He's praised Kendrick Lamar in the past. But seriously, after a few names, how good is the quality of rap right now as a whole?

Lebron and Steph Curry are two of the best basketball players of all-time. Each is arguably the best player to ever play their respective positions. And barring injury, Victor Wembanyama will be one of the most spectacular players ever for the next 15 years. I can acknowledge that while also noting that the NBA as a whole is just not as good as it once was. Outside of some really phenomenal players doing some game changing stuff (like Kendrick or Tyler the Creator or Doechii), the rest is just not exciting to watch. And not to go on a tangent, it extends to college basketball where women's basketball is a much better product than the men's game right now (with better star power to boot).

I get the eye rolling over older generations saying things were better "back in my day", I don't think that's what he's doing. He's still DEEP in the rap game producing. He hears what's coming out as he's still an active participant, not some retired guy who doesn't know the name of the players he criticizing.

There was a time in hip-hop where there was truly diverse, innovative sounds emerging on the popular scene from all over from Arrested Development to Wu Tang Clan (I'm sure there's a Z that I'm overlooking for that analogy, ah well). I just don't hear that today. And I have tried. I have more music at my finger tips than I ever did and even with a teenager keeping my in the loop. The hip-hop scene is rough. I mean, I'm not commenting from the sideline. I'm going see Tyler in March and probably Kendrick too. I'm listening to new stuff, trying to anyway.
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I'm such an old guy, I read the first 2 lines of this post and decided it was way too long for me to read so I just skipped it and moved on to the next 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
the quality and originality of music overall just isn’t there like it was. I can understand what he means.
 
guidomerkinsrules said:
Old people evolve out of the ability to evaluate what good new music is
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Or it could just be that.

As one of the resident old guys here then, can you clarify your position? You named some artists who are making good new music. I agree with those named BTW. Are you (or am I, for that matter) able to evaluate new music or not? I know that sounds like a swipe, but Im being earnest. I'm trying to determine your stance on what you don’t like. Does that make sense? As in, "I like Kendrick, he's making great music. I don't like Sexxy Red or Moneybagg Yo, that **** is terrible" or is it, "I can't relate to Sexxy Red or Moneybagg Yo, so I'm unable to evaluate their music well maybe Id like if I were younger, but Kendrick's stuff sounds great to me."

But I know you couldn't have liked everything that came out in 97, although it's considered one of the best years in hip-hop. It's not like your had no discernment abilities then? At what point does our discernment become invalid?
 
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“All this machinery, making modern music, can still be open hearted…It’s not so fully charted it’s really just a question of your honesty, yeah, your honesty.”

Lyrics from Rush “Spirit of the Radio” from several decades ago…
 
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livefromDC said:
Or it could just be that.

As one of the resident old guys here then, can you clarify your position? You named some artists who are making good new music. I agree with those named BTW. Are you (or am I, for that matter) able to evaluate new music or not? I know that sounds like a swipe, but Im being earnest. I'm trying to determine your stance on what you don’t like. Does that make sense? As in, "I like Kendrick, he's making great music. I don't like Sexxy Red or Moneybagg Yo, that **** is terrible" or is it, "I can't relate to Sexxy Red or Moneybagg Yo, so I'm unable to evaluate their music well maybe Id like if I were younger, but Kendrick's stuff sounds great to me."

But I know you couldn't have liked everything that came out in 97, although it's considered one of the best years in hip-hop. It's not like your had no discernment abilities then? At what point does our discernment become invalid?
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we know that 'kids these days' arguments trigger me
I would argue that few tv shows, fewer movies and even fewer music offerings are made for people our age
our reaction to that 'reality' seems to be a 'rage against the dying of the light' response vs an analysis/appreciation of the actual content
that being said, I must admit that my relationship to new music for maybe 2 decades (say 25-45) was primarily about utility - 'can I use this in my productions?'
I haven't sought music on my own for awhile - I mostly made students send me music they were into (and really just the 'cool' students)
and even then, whatever music I found exciting was probably still filtered through whatever 'pop music' ears I developed as a teen or 'artsy-fartsy' ears I developed in my 20s

and again, I just don't think content creators (or even fans) decades past relevancy, have much of a platform to evaluate the present/future of their art
 

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