George W Bush: Top Ten EVER?!? (1 Viewer)

[Shawn]

I am fond of his judicial appointments, I believe the tax cuts helped stave off the young recession he inheritied from the clinton era, and it also helped with the economic struggles post 9-11,

even people who are against the Iraq war feel the Afganistan conflicts were good, they destablized Bin Laden's organization and overall ability to make war.

He also made efforts to do other good things but was completely railroaded by the Dems and the media. For example Social Security reform,

I am sorry but allowing people to invest 1/4 of thier social security privately as they see fit is not "taking away old peoples social security " as the dems tried to demonize it.
The voucher programs for education I though was a good idea to make education better..



Just as people who feel george bush can do no wrong are simply partisan bush lovers,

The Montra that W did nothing right is an equally partisan POV.

its almost never plain black and white.

He was derailed, because now anyone from any party is allowed to play the victim card.

He was derailed because he drew a line in the sand, and ultimately wasn't able to build any kind of consensus. It's poor leadership. Reagan was as partisan as they come, but he didn't draw a line in the sand about everything. He knew when to hold a gun to people's heads, and when to invite the enemy into his tent for counsel. Consequently, when he did draw a line in the sand, it meant something.

Of course Bush did some things right. You can say that about any President, even Grant or Taft.

But he did so many things wrong, that no amount of success in Iraq will ever redeem his legacy to the extent that he's considered a great President.

 

[SWJJ]

He was derailed, because now anyone from any party is allowed to play the victim card.

He was derailed because he drew a line in the sand, and ultimately wasn't able to build any kind of consensus. It's poor leadership. Reagan was as partisan as they come, but he didn't draw a line in the sand about everything. He knew when to hold a gun to people's heads, and when to invite the enemy into his tent for counsel. Consequently, when he did draw a line in the sand, it meant something.

Of course he did some things right. You can say that about any President, even Grant or Taft.

But he did so many things wrong, that no amount of success in Iraq will ever redeem his legacy to the extent that he's considered a great President.

I never said he was a great president, I said bottom quarter.

RABDOG asked me

"and what praytell has he done right?"

So I quoted him and replied.

And yes W has been a huge failure who has had many mistakes.

But the Dems were more concerned about ensureing W's failure than making the nation better.

As far as I am concerned our entire government is a huge failure.

 

[cruize]

So basically, if someone doesn't agree with your opinon they are partisan hacks, or stupid or sheep, or whatever you want to call them?

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but is anyone else tired of these posts that basically say "this is what I think and if you don't agree with me then you're just stupid?"

Can't we just give our own opinion and reasoning and let everyone else make up their own minds? Just because one of us has an opinion doesn't mean differing opinions are wrong. That judgement is reserved for facts (2+2=4). Varying opinions are what makes this country great. That and the fact that we have the freedom to express them.

As I've stated many times and above in so many words, I don't like partisan politics and those people who would follow Hitler if he was a member of their said party. There is good and bad in both of our political parties. Neither has a monopoly on right and wrong. It does make me frustrated when someone tries to defend President Bush by taking a shot at the Democrats. They can't say anything good about him so they try to blame someone else. That's ridiculous. Is President Bush the cause of all evil on the planet? Of course not. He deserves his share as do all of our elected officials that has our nation at one of it's lowest points in our history. Some people are partisan hacks. Some people are sheep. We all can learn something, with myself at the top of the list as I learn something every day, by atleast opening our ears and minds a little more. Don't discount any message just because you're not a fan of the messenger. You may not change you're mind on a view. But, you will be a more informed person by listening.