Hill and Jordan wasn’t restructured (191 Viewers)

[Randy Jones]

I find this interesting. Anyone know anything?

 

[Stalwart385]

Haven't heard anything specific recently. I will say those are the last two I would restructure on the team unless I had to.

I do believe someone said they are working on pay cuts for them. Jordan, with a reduced role, owed 12.5m in salary. Taysom is injured, probably not returning till after the season starts, and owed 10m in salary.

Could be wrong and it was just speculation.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Really hoping Cam stays, never want to see him in another uni.

 

[Clintonrebel]

Nice to keep them "just in case" but also nice not to extend their contracts.

 

[Merl]

I find this interesting. Anyone know anything?

Yet. They have until the end of the season to do that if Loomis decides he needs to.

 

[St. Geezy]

Really hoping Cam stays, never want to see him in another uni.

You have no reason to worry about that. The man has basically vowed to play his whole career with one team, as an ode to his father, who did the same.

He’d retire before putting on another uniform at this stage.

 

[St. Geezy]

Yet. They have until the end of the season to do that if Loomis decides he needs to.

Exactly. It’s not like we need the space at the moment. That’s like emergency cash in our back pocket.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Both of those contracts need to see their natural end and fall off the books whether it be through keeping to expiration or cutting & eating it. No more restructuring if you don't need to.

 

[soggymoss84]

Neither one will be restructured, they will take paycuts. We don’t need them to take a paycut right now though, so Mickey is probably holding off until he sees how much money he actually needs. You also want to do right by the player taking the paycut, you don’t want to go to Cam and say “hey will you take a 6 million dollar paycut?” Then he does and you don’t use that money. That would be a slap in the face to those guys.

 

[texasjefe]

Cam Jordan 2025 starting point
Final year of contract currently
Cap Hit $20M
Dead Cap (cut) pre June 1 $24M (no cap savings, not happening)
Dead Cap (cut) June 1 Salary comes off books, Dead Cap lowers to $9M
So, he's a risk for a June 1 cut, but that's highly unlikely.
If they restructure, the dead cap charge for 2026 is currently $15M and that would go up, for a cut made by mid-March 2026.
A June 1, 2026 cut would lower the dead cap to $9M, though that would rise a few million more if restructured.
June 1, 2026 would seem to be the exit strategy.

Probability - a highly celebrated swan song season for Jordan, with his bill paid in full this year or split and half paid by 2026 cap (for dead cap charge)

Taysom Hill starting point 2025
Last year of contract
Hill cap hit (plays) is $18M. If he's recovering from injury with intent to play, he'll return as a PUP-type designation to keep his roster spot open until he sees the field.

Hill gets cut or retires now, dead cap is $18M with pennies in cap savings. (not happening because the June 1 cut is far cheaper)

Hill June 1, 2025 cut, dead cap drops to $8M with $10M in cap savings (but after free agency so this money moreso frees up for adding a more expensive player by trade-deadline, or a summer free agent, or, rolling over money to 2026, as that will be needed)

So, while not expected, they could move on and "invest" the $8M June 1 dead cap as the cost for opening up Hill's spot to a new signee (at any position. i.e the new player's cap hit with the Taysom dead cap being a surcharge for that)

Probability - 2025 is Hill's swan song with the Saints. either capping at $18M, or restructuring half of that to 2026 dead cap (paid out of 2026 cap).

Now, if Hill returns and produces and wants to play in 2026, the Saints would have some tough choices. New 1-year contract? At what (lowered) amount? Would it make sense to move on and get younger at his roster slot?

Paycuts - I have not factored that scenario in, but if it happens, it certainly lowers the cap number as a restructure, but it moreso limits the accrual of new restructured dead cap money in 2026, a net positive.

My analysis is avocational and unofficial (but free), so do poke holes

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Haven't heard anything specific recently. I will say those are the last two I would restructure on the team unless I had to.

I do believe someone said they are working on pay cuts for them. Jordan, with a reduced role, owed 12.5m in salary. Taysom is injured, probably not returning till after the season starts, and owed 10m in salary.

Could be wrong and it was just speculation.

I’m curious to see Cam’s role in Staley’s defense, he’s not going anywhere though he will retire a Saint.

Hill is interesting bc even though he’s older and coming off of a bad injury I don’t think he’s done, but his salary is too much. I’m hoping he takes a pay cut but idk. I will say if he sees the field in an nfl game before November I would be impressed.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

Would expect both see some sort of pay cut eventually. Neither make sense to restructure.

 

[SaintRob]

Really hoping Cam stays, never want to see him in another uni.

I want him to have a better final season. He was really energized after DA was fired. Seeing him so upset after the Panthers loss was disheartening.

 

[BreesusSaves]

A post June-1 cut for Jordan saves the Saints $11m.

A post June-1 cut for Hill saves the Saints $10m.

I expect they'll both take paycuts so they can leave on their own terms and not be cut.

 

[HouseCall]

A post June-1 cut for Jordan saves the Saints $11m.

A post June-1 cut for Hill saves the Saints $10m.

I expect they'll both take paycuts so they can leave on their own terms and not be cut.

I think Hill might take a pay cut but he’d also have a lot of interest from Denver if he decided to stay put and force a cut.

I think Jordan still sees himself as a viable player and at the end of last season seemed to imply that he’d be ok playing somewhere else to end his career. So I wonder how much resistance he’d put up to a pay cut.