I'm worried about The Who Dat! Nation (1 Viewer)

[Bill]

The last 11+ days have been like a train wreck for all card carrying members of The Who Dat! Nation. Though we all have been through ups and downs in regard to the league testing our resolve to support our beloved franchise, the organization they are a part of is pushing many of us right to the edge. Some here have announced publicly that they have already made the leap and moved on.

While we all understand that this fan site does not represent the total number of Saints fans both locally and around the world, I believe that it is a pretty good cross section that gives us a really good idea of how the complete number of Saints fans are feeling at this time.

We are approaching a milestone of sorts this Sunday. The Fraud Bowl will be a very difficult time for many. Whether the majority truly boycott or not, the game will still be a painful reminder of who should really be the participants of this cherished contest and may solidify where we may personally choose to go from that point forward. Will more folks take that permanent 'leap' to free themselves of the emotional burden of the questionable (at least) activities of the league and its czar? Or will the end of the trophy ceremony on Sunday allow the majority to reset their minds and hearts to the season ahead?

Frankly that will be a critical time for me. I will have to be able to convince myself to a reasonable degree that the future games will be legitimate contests that are determined primarily by the performance of the teams on the field... and nothing else.
I simply could not understand why anyone would continue their support if they truly believe (or know) that the games have any manipulation to alter the results. This is what we will all have to resolve within ourselves if we will ever find the same appeal in NFL football games.

I just hope that come Monday morning, we will come out of this travesty with The Who Dat! Nation intact. It will be nearly impossible to enjoy a season of football if games are challenged each week with additional or lingering conspiracy theories and doubts about the genuineness of the games. If we feel it's real enough to follow and believe, we should be as devout as ever. If we feel there are still fixes in place, we need to go away and remember the good times we all used to enjoy as Saints fans. If any of us try to choose anything besides these two options, we are only fooling ourselves.

Geaux Saints! Who Dat Forever!

 

[Saint Jack]

It’ll get better. The Saints as a franchise are still new to making the playoffs on a regular basis. And with making the playoffs on regular basis comes heartbreak when you don’t win the Super Bowl.
It’ll take time to put this season into prospective. It still was a great year and the second best Saints season ever.
I have no doubt the Saints will be back in it in ‘19.

 

[AARPSaint]

Not worried. This fanbase has been through John Mecom, Mike Ditka, the Billy Joe's, Flipper Anderson, Carl Smith, Katrina, Bountygate, and the Minneapolis Miracle, just to name a few. We are resiliant. We love our team. We'll be back.

 

[limeyjohn]

The next few months should be very interesting, l still believe the zebras will have to answer for what they did, in particular why the head ref lied, now with RG also lying about contacting players things hopefully will start to get real

 

[Saintslfc13]

I ain't going anywhere, come hell or highwater I will always be a Saints fan. The NFL can go **** itself. I firmly believe the game was extended to allow the rams the chance to win. I cannot with 100 percent certainty say the game was "rigged" but I can say the former. Having said that I will not be discouraged as far as being a Saints fan goes.

 

[Saint Jack]

I ain't going anywhere, come hell or highwater I will always be a Saints fan. The NFL can go **** itself. I firmly believe the game was extended to allow the rams the chance to win. I cannot with 100 percent certainty say the game was "rigged" but I can say the former. Having said that I will not be discouraged as far as being a Saints fan goes.

I discount the rigging theory because you could’ve made that about any matchup.
If it was Saints/Patriots you could say it was rigged because the networks were hyping that matchup for the previous two weeks.
If it was Rams/Chiefs. It would be the result of wanting to put the two young QBs in it.
If it was Saints/Chiefs it would be the two MVPs.

 

[Bill]

I ain't going anywhere, come hell or highwater I will always be a Saints fan. The NFL can go **** itself. I firmly believe the game was extended to allow the rams the chance to win. I cannot with 100 percent certainty say the game was "rigged" but I can say the former. Having said that I will not be discouraged as far as being a Saints fan goes.

You're right. It's impossible for some to claim the game was completely 'rigged' because the Saints still had the upper hand in the game right up until the moment that Drew got his face rearranged on that interception heave in overtime.

But it sure will be wonderful to have the Fraud Bowl over and done so we won't have to keep reminding ourselves who should have been playing the Patriots if the officials in our game hadn't been lobotomized prior to kickoff.

I just need to go into a football coma until about May.

 

[Saintslfc13]

You're right. It's impossible for some to claim the game was completely 'rigged' because the Saints still had the upper hand in the game right up until the moment that Drew got his face rearranged on that interception heave in overtime.

But it sure will be wonderful to have the Fraud Bowl over and done so we won't have to keep reminding ourselves who should have been playing the Patriots if the officials in our game hadn't been lobotomized prior to kickoff.

I just need to go into a football coma until about May.

Heard that. We all watched what happened, we just thought we could overcome it. Trash part is we did until that call happened. Now I'm seeing other fans saying penalties would've offset because of hands to the face by Peat. Maybe. Replaying the down would've been preferable to 4th and 10 though.

 

[Bill]

The next few months should be very interesting, l still believe the zebras will have to answer for what they did, in particular why the head ref lied, now with RG also lying about contacting players things hopefully will start to get real

LJ, try to accept that neither those hapless officials nor their Grand Poobah is going to have any repercussions from the controversy of the NFCCG other than a handful of slashed tires and whatever foreign material they are likely to find on their doorstep or mailbox where they live.
People (in this country especially) need their football and will soon be moving on to the next NFL event that affects their team. I just hope that we will all feel like we can do the same here.

 

[Bleu Raeder]

The lack of transparency by the league and the failure of Goodell to actually answer anything, along with the late fine (and it's inequity) have done nothing to convince me I should continue to spend time and money on what I see as a corrupt organization, regardless of my personal love for our team.

 

[You]

If these same refs call a game, I cast a side eye. They are not good refs. This isn’t speculation. This is fact. I saw it, you saw it, millions of others saw it. Fact. They are not good at making the call of pass interference and helmet to helmet. They also lie. Facts.

What I also know is that the league will protect these guys. Not sure why but they refuse to investigate these guys. These are facts.

What I don’t know is ‘why’. Just don’t know.

Goodel hates the saints?. The refs were corrupted financially?. The refs are just bad and goodel is an enabler (longshot)? The refs and goodel are part of a giant conspiracy to rig this game to help Los Angeles? Other? All of the above?
I don’t know the degree or depth of this thing. I just know what I saw.

So with these things in mind, it is really hard to continue support for the NFL as a saints fan.
Love the Saints. It’s hard now to make the pieces fit though. This is a puzzle with missing pieces.

 

[Saint Jack]

If these same refs call a game, I cast a side eye. They are not good refs. This isn’t speculation. This is fact. I saw it, you saw it, millions of others saw it. Fact. They are not good at making the call of pass interference and helmet to helmet. They also lie. Facts.

What I also know is that the league will protect these guys. Not sure why but they refuse to investigate these guys. These are facts.

What I don’t know is ‘why’. Just don’t know.

Goodel hates the saints. The refs were corrupted financially. The refs are just bad and goodel is an enabler (longshot). The refs and goodel are part of a giant conspiracy to rig this game to help Los Angeles.
I don’t know the degree or depth of this thing. I just know what I saw.

So with these things in mind, it is really hard to continue support for the NFL as a saints fan.
Love the Saints. It’s hard now to make the pieces fit though. This is a puzzle with missing pieces.

But why would the League do this for the Rams and not the Chargers?
Wouldn’t they try to rig the first Rams/Saints game to have a big event NFC Championship in L.A.?

 

[Bill]

The lack of transparency by the league and the failure of Goodell to actually answer anything, along with the late fine (and it's inequity) have done nothing to convince me I should continue to spend time and money on what I see as a corrupt organization, regardless of my personal love for our team.

Hey... I absolutely respect your decision. And the fact that you will not allow yourself to be a hypocrite is worthy of imitation. As I mentioned, we all have to choose between two options. Trust that it's real and continue to follow and support the league... or believe it's just a big manipulated sham and wave adios to the farce that it is.

If someone tries to fall somewhere in the middle, they are merely fans of the WWE.
People must be true to themselves about what they really believe.

 

[Saintslfc13]

But why would the League do this for the Rams and not the Chargers?
Wouldn’t they try to rig the first Rams/Saints game to have a big event NFC Championship in L.A.?

No one in L.A. wants the Chargers there besides people like me, and others, who are fans of other teams that might play the Chargers.

 

[Bill]

If these same refs call a game, I cast a side eye. They are not good refs. This isn’t speculation. This is fact. I saw it, you saw it, millions of others saw it. Fact. They are not good at making the call of pass interference and helmet to helmet. They also lie. Facts.

What I also know is that the league will protect these guys. Not sure why but they refuse to investigate these guys. These are facts.

What I don’t know is ‘why’. Just don’t know.

Goodel hates the saints. The refs were corrupted financially. The refs are just bad and goodel is an enabler (longshot). The refs and goodel are part of a giant conspiracy to rig this game to help Los Angeles.
I don’t know the degree or depth of this thing. I just know what I saw.

So with these things in mind, it is really hard to continue support for the NFL as a saints fan.
Love the Saints. It’s hard now to make the pieces fit though. This is a puzzle with missing pieces.

Brown, at some point you will have to establish in your own mind what you believe about the future of NFL games just like Bleu Raeder has. I firmly believe that there will be a lot of folks who will conclude that the coincidences are just too great to consider NFL games as anything more than an orchestrated exhibition designed to appease the large markets around the country.

If you are never able to completely convince yourself that the games are legitimate, you will be plagued with dissatisfaction and lack of trust for as long as the NFL remains in your life. And ain't nobody got time for dat.