Is Joe Burrow the last one? (1 Viewer)

[Dastheat_9]

Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid, Nick Sirianni, and the College game has ended traditional Offenses. Levis falling and the trend analysis is showing the drop back QB is a dinosaur. Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers, Kurt Cousins, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, and Josh Allen. The last three run RPO concepts. The NFL is showing that cerebral drop back QB is no longer the norm. Power running/ zone blocking schemes with weapons are not going away. They asked Kirby Smart, why should a team draft Stetson Bennett. He referred to the fact that he learned under Todd Monken system. The sideline stressed spread system that just got Lamar Jackson paid. I thought that was interesting that he was referring to the fact that his program of spacing stress, and spread was considered a bonus. It is no longer traditional west coast concepts with longer play calls, and protection calls. I am afraid sometimes that we have wasted a lot of talent keeping Carmichael, and not deploying the new NFL. The 49ers with mccaffrey, Aiyuk, kittle, and Deebow. Have plugged and played Trey Lance, Jimmy G, and now Brock Purdy. Just keep pumping. Hurts in Philly running the Sirianni spread concept is gorgeous.

 

[GeneHansen]

Aren't Bryce Young and CJ Stroud cerebral drop back QBs?

 

[Saint Spud]

Aren't Bryce Young and CJ Stroud cerebral drop back QBs?

Yes. It’s been said by some scouting types that Young has many of the same qualities that make Burrow special (processing, accuracy, etc). Just smaller frame.

 

[Saint Floyd]

Aren't Bryce Young and CJ Stroud cerebral drop back QBs?

Bryce Young is, but I’m not sold on Stroud being classified as “cerebral” quite yet.

 

[Mamba]

Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid, Nick Sirianni, and the College game has ended traditional Offenses. Levis falling and the trend analysis is showing the drop back QB is a dinosaur. Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers, Kurt Cousins, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, and Josh Allen. The last three run RPO concepts. The NFL is showing that cerebral drop back QB is no longer the norm. Power running/ zone blocking schemes with weapons are not going away. They asked Kirby Smart, why should a team draft Stetson Bennett. He referred to the fact that he learned under Todd Monken system. The sideline stressed spread system that just got Lamar Jackson paid. I thought that was interesting that he was referring to the fact that his program of spacing stress, and spread was considered a bonus. It is no longer traditional west coast concepts with longer play calls, and protection calls. I am afraid sometimes that we have wasted a lot of talent keeping Carmichael, and not deploying the new NFL. The 49ers with mccaffrey, Aiyuk, kittle, and Deebow. Have plugged and played Trey Lance, Jimmy G, and now Brock Purdy. Just keep pumping. Hurts in Philly running the Sirianni spread concept is gorgeous.

First of all, Levis falling has absolutely nothing to do with any perceived decline in the "drop back QB" prototype. He's got significant flaws to his game (and possibly an off-putting personality to boot).

I'm not convinced at all that the pocket QB is going anywhere. While I do see more teams incorporating the 6-back offense, and that will probably continue, there will always be teams/coaches that have a need and preference for the traditional style QB.

For one thing, college programs don't have to deal with the long-term injury risk that NFL programs do.

 

[scott88]

don't read too much into Levis' fall, it's his personality as well as his injury history that has teams turned off

 

[SweetT]

Bryce Young is, but I’m not sold on Stroud being classified as “cerebral” quite yet.

Why is that? Did you not see what he did to that Georgia defense? All he has ever done was ball out.

 

[Dastheat_9]

Bryce Young is intelligent. He ran zone blocking RPO spread concepts in Alabama. Many time with only 2 reads. I shouldn’t have used the adjective cerebral. I just should have specifically highlighted west coast, single back, power I, and aces traditional running schemes. Levis in my opinion was the second best QB in this draft. He played hurt last year. His O line was terrible. The year before was phenomenal. He played under Coen. If the Saints drafted him. I would be excited.

Bryce Young is, but I’m not sold on Stroud being classified as “cerebral” quite yet

 

[fishing4food]

OP: Trevor Lawrence is also a drop back passer. Not to bad at it either. He's starting to get a better surrounding cast around him and his game is improving.

 

[No2DC]

Levis was overrated from the jump. He has a big arm, and that's it.

 

[Saint Spud]

Why is that? Did you not see what he did to that Georgia defense? All he has ever done was ball out.

Stroud is going to be a great case study for the S2 testing. It’s supposed to more accurately measure some of the traits that make QBs great: processing speed and decision making, recognition, etc.

Stroud reportedly bombed the test, while Young aced it.

S2 proponents have said that a great score doesn’t guarantee success, but a terrible score virtually guarantees failure at the position.

All of that to say: some of the knocks on Stroud are that the OSU offense (and skill players) don’t always force him to make the split-second decisions that Young has had to make. S2 is supposed to fill in that gap.

But this is the first time we’ve had largely publicized S2 scores before players are actually drafted. So it will actually test the theories behind it in real time.

 

[i_am_error]

Levis fell because his inner Ryan Leaf is blossoming in full view.

It's also puzzling that teams keep picking Ohio State QBs so high.

 

[meily]

A Drop back QB will never go out of style because any variation outside of the traditional QB is a devolution of the position.

 

[Semper]

I don’t know how cerebral any of the are this year but I did read reviews on them and neither Stroud or Young are going to scare defenses when the run.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Levis was overrated from the jump. He has a big arm, and that's it.

Carson Strong without the zombie knee but with a personality that somehow makes Thad Castle from Blue Mountain State the least-douchey character ever.