Is Old Music Killing New Music? (5 Viewers)

I've said the same many times. The best music is rarely at the top of the charts. In 1969 the #1 song for
the year was Sugar Sugar. If I asked you who was your favorite group from that era, I guarantee many would not
say The Archies.

We built this city was recorded in 85. I was all in to Metallica,Judas Priest,Iron Maiden,AC/DC etc etc etc.

Back to a point raised earlier. Should old rock n rollers face mandatory retirement ? I say no. Keep on doing what
you love. The age of the musicians below range from 73- 77. Yes, they are past their prime and it's damn criminal
the Rock and Roll hall of fame finally inducted them 27 years after they were eligible.




Ah! Judas Priest. Yes!

Absolutely. If you can still play and you can still sing, by all means, do what you love to do. That said, I went to see B.B. King for the last time in Charlotte a couple years before he died, and having seem him decades earlier, it was a bit sad to see him sitting on a chair... the (seemingly) first half hour of the show was dedicated to introducing his band... but then he went into Downhearted, and his play was as sharp as ever.
 
Ah! Judas Priest. Yes!

Absolutely. If you can still play and you can still sing, by all means, do what you love to do. That said, I went to see B.B. King for the last time in Charlotte a couple years before he died, and having seem him decades earlier, it was a bit sad to see him sitting on a chair... the (seemingly) first half hour of the show was dedicated to introducing his band... but then he went into Downhearted, and his play was as sharp as ever.
greatest stage of blues artists ever. I'm glad to have seen it when all of them were with us.

 
Why?

"We" didn't create anything. That is but one drop of a song in the middle of an ocean of Springsteen, Tears for Fears, Depeche Mode, Bowie, Prince, R.E.M., Dire Straits, Petty, Mellencamp, Run DMC, heck, even the Beastie Boys.... just off the top of my head, around the time We Built the City came out.

I believe he said tongue in cheek.....every generation has terrible songs, but this one actually got a lot of airplay for some ghastly reason, so it's the easiest of targets IMO....

The crazy thing is is that some rock journalists back then and even later on suggested he was depressed or suicidal about his diminishing role in Chicago by mid-70's as they gradually went more into a pop-oriented direction instead of their celebrated late 60's rock-jazz fusion "experimental stage" but in reality while Kath was certainly intoxicated, he just accidentally shot himself fooling around with guns IIRC, at a pool party.

I saw a doc once that claimed (just speculation that made some sense) that there was a power struggle in the band between Kath and Cetera and the band was mostly on Cetera's side. Cetera (as later proved to be true) wanted to do ballady, poppy stuff.....Kath wanted to go fusion/experimental......again, don't know if it's true or not but it does make some sense.....One thing that I do believe is true, is had Jimi, Kath and SRV survived the music scene may be just a little bit different, for the better....
 
Ah! Judas Priest. Yes!

Absolutely. If you can still play and you can still sing, by all means, do what you love to do. That said, I went to see B.B. King for the last time in Charlotte a couple years before he died, and having seem him decades earlier, it was a bit sad to see him sitting on a chair... the (seemingly) first half hour of the show was dedicated to introducing his band... but then he went into Downhearted, and his play was as sharp as ever.

Buddy Guy still sounds and plays great.....
 
Terps, take a little dope and walk out in the air, the sounds are all connected to your brain..

Find yourself a woman and lay down on the ground, the pleasure keeps falling down like rain...

Get yourself a car, and feel forking angry and downright insanely powerful while you fly.

It all seems fine, to the Naked Eye but I swear by God and Jesus Christ, it doesn't feel like that way one GD BIT.

You hold that maternalfornicator gun and I know the rules and we stand down looking in each other's eyes, some butt crevasse SOB's could die and it might seem fine to the Naked Eye, but it wouldn't feel that great at all.

The Naked Eye, Behind Blue Eyes along with most of Who's Next (based off Pete Townsend's ill-fated larger abandoned proposed follow-up to Tommy, Lifehouse "Brave New World in rock terms") has to be the band's most angriest, guttural, fork-you-maternal fornicators and to the Universe, bastages immemorial record ever recorded. It borders at times on being psychotic, vindictative, and overly vicious in some of its songs like some pissed-off loners deliberately starting a riot in any public place in general and picking fights just for the forking hell of it and because their anti-social misanthropes.
You do realize I was kidding? :hihi:
 
I believe he said tongue in cheek.....every generation has terrible songs, but this one actually got a lot of airplay for some ghastly reason, so it's the easiest of targets IMO....



I saw a doc once that claimed (just speculation that made some sense) that there was a power struggle in the band between Kath and Cetera and the band was mostly on Cetera's side. Cetera (as later proved to be true) wanted to do ballady, poppy stuff.....Kath wanted to go fusion/experimental......again, don't know if it's true or not but it does make some sense.....One thing that I do believe is true, is had Jimi, Kath and SRV survived the music scene may be just a little bit different, for the better....
And Janis, Jim, Mama Cass, and Brian Jones...
 
I hear you, you can tell I'm a guitar/fusion guy.....

Also Judas Priest rocks, they have always been my definition of heavy metal.....
I saw Judas Priest 4 times back in the day. They were excellent live!

The best of the bunch was Priest/Iron Maiden in 1981 :)
 
I was a senior in HS in 1981/82, saw them twice that year, they were awesome.....
I was a sophomore at Maryland and we saw them at the old dump Capital Centre. A dump it was indeed, but we caught a ****-ton of shows there because it was 15 mins from campus.

I remember wedging 7 idiots (including me) into my Camaro for the Van Halen concert because the derelict with the bigger car let it break down. I dared even one of those drunk ******* to spill a single drop. Told them if one spilled, they all died :hihi:
 
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I was a sophomore at Maryland and we saw them at the old dump Capital Centre. A dump it was indeed, but we caught a ****-ton of shows there because it was 15 mins from campus.

I remember wedging 7 idiots (including me) into my Camaro for the Van Halen concert because the derelict with the bigger car let it break down. I dared even one of those drunk ******* to spill a single drop. Told them if one spilled, they all died :hihi:
It's hard to believe that the old Capital Centre was still hosting occasional Capitals/Bullets games well into the 90's long after the Bullets had officially "moved" from Baltimore to D.C. in the mid-late 70's to play in D.C.'s Chinatown. Being located near one of this nation's biggest markets, the DMV, and given the ultra-important context of it being located in the nation's capitol sort of provided arenas like Capitol over-sized influence than most other arenas elsewhere in the country at the time.

In the late 70's/early 80's, it wasnt just major, established rock acts like Van Halen, Priest, Iron Maiden (though in 1981, pre-Mark of the Beast, they hadn't totally reached the top-tier), Ozzy, Bowie, Led Zeppelin and Journey but also most of the classic UK "punk rock" bands like the Damned, Sex Pistols, and The Clash played some of their first US concerts at the Capitol Centre (IIRC, the Clash made quite an impression on local music scene, the burgeoning hardcore D.C. punk scene).

The Sex Pistols ill-fated 1978 U.S. concert tour almost didnt happen. BTW, Terps due to nagging typical passport customs delays, I remember reading that a Carter administration official stepped in after Malcolm Mclauren's insistence and pushed through the temporary work visas that would allow the band to tour the U.S.

The thing about the early 80's D.C. hardcore punk scene like Black Flag, the Replacements, Minutemen is that once you "reached" venues like the Capitol, you have officially "made it" as a local DMV professional musical act or band. You moved beyond the dive bars/clubs scene circuit into the big time as your fan base is substantiatively large to be signed to a major record label.
 
Good article from the Atlantic

I've always preferred older music - 60's and 70s make up 95%+ of what I buy and listen to, and have for 30+ years when I first got into music (and not just listening to the same songs over and over - though I do plenty of that, I'm constantly looking for 60s and 70s songs, albums and artists I haven't heard before, and what draws me to 'new' music is when it sounds like 60s and 70s music
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Old songs now represent 70 percent of the U.S. music market, according to the latest numbers from MRC Data, a music-analytics firm. Those who make a living from new music—especially that endangered species known as the working musician—should look at these figures with fear and trembling. But the news gets worse: The new-music market is actually shrinking. All the growth in the market is coming from old songs.

The 200 most popular new tracks now regularly account for less than 5 percent of total streams. That rate was twice as high just three years ago. The mix of songs actually purchased by consumers is even more tilted toward older music. The current list of most-downloaded tracks on iTunes is filled with the names of bands from the previous century, such as Creedence Clearwater Revival and The Police.

I encountered this phenomenon myself recently at a retail store, where the youngster at the cash register was singing along with Sting on “Message in a Bottle” (a hit from 1979) as it blasted on the radio. A few days earlier, I had a similar experience at a local diner, where the entire staff was under 30 but every song was more than 40 years old. I asked my server: “Why are you playing this old music?” She looked at me in surprise before answering: “Oh, I like these songs.”

Never before in history have new tracks attained hit status while generating so little cultural impact. In fact, the audience seems to be embracing the hits of decades past instead. Success was always short-lived in the music business, but now even new songs that become bona fide hits can pass unnoticed by much of the population.

Only songs released in the past 18 months get classified as “new” in the MRC database, so people could conceivably be listening to a lot of two-year-old songs, rather than 60-year-old ones. But I doubt these old playlists consist of songs from the year before last. Even if they did, that fact would still represent a repudiation of the pop-culture industry, which is almost entirely focused on what’s happening right now.

Every week I hear from hundreds of publicists, record labels, band managers, and other professionals who want to hype the newest new thing. Their livelihoods depend on it. The entire business model of the music industry is built on promoting new songs. As a music writer, I’m expected to do the same, as are radio stations, retailers, DJs, nightclub owners, editors, playlist curators, and everyone else with skin in the game. Yet all the evidence indicates that few listeners are paying attention.

Consider the recent reaction when the Grammy Awards were postponed. Perhaps I should say the lack of reaction, because the cultural response was little more than a yawn. I follow thousands of music professionals on social media, and I didn’t encounter a single expression of annoyance or regret that the biggest annual event in new music had been put on hold. That’s ominous.

Can you imagine how angry fans would be if the Super Bowl or NBA Finals were delayed? People would riot in the streets. But the Grammy Awards go missing in action, and hardly anyone notices..............

To answer the title question. I HOPE SO!
 
I saw Judas Priest 4 times back in the day. They were excellent live!

The best of the bunch was Priest/Iron Maiden in 1981 :)
Disagree sir. The best was AC/DC in 81. The cannons on for those about to rock caused 2 50ft fissure fractures
in the roof of the coast coliseum. The band was fined and barred from future dates. It was awesome
 

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