Joker 2: The Musical (1 Viewer)

[Optimus Prime]

Joker: Folie à Deux is on course for a catastrophic financial loss of up to $200m (£153m) as its dismal box office run continues amid a stream of critical brickbats and poor audience ratings.

According to a report in Variety, industry analysts say Joker: Folie à Deux is projected to earn a total of $65m at the North American box office, and around $215m elsewhere for a total of $280m – well below the estimated $300m the film cost to produce and promote.

With revenue splits with cinemas factored in, Variety say that in fact the film needs to earn around $450m to break even, though producing studio Warner Bros say that the break-even figure is in fact $375m.

In an effort to claw back revenue the film is headed for an early debut on home entertainment and streaming platforms on 29 October. Meanwhile the Rotten Tomatoes rating website has recorded an audience score of 32%.……..

Joker sequel on course for catastrophic $200m loss – reports

Folie à Deux is heading for an early debut on streaming platforms as its dismal run at the box office continues

www.theguardian.com

 

[buzd]

Joker: Folie à Deux is on course for a catastrophic financial loss of up to $200m (£153m) as its dismal box office run continues amid a stream of critical brickbats and poor audience ratings.

According to a report in Variety, industry analysts say Joker: Folie à Deux is projected to earn a total of $65m at the North American box office, and around $215m elsewhere for a total of $280m – well below the estimated $300m the film cost to produce and promote.

With revenue splits with cinemas factored in, Variety say that in fact the film needs to earn around $450m to break even, though producing studio Warner Bros say that the break-even figure is in fact $375m.

In an effort to claw back revenue the film is headed for an early debut on home entertainment and streaming platforms on 29 October. Meanwhile the Rotten Tomatoes rating website has recorded an audience score of 32%.……..

Joker sequel on course for catastrophic $200m loss – reports

Folie à Deux is heading for an early debut on streaming platforms as its dismal run at the box office continues

www.theguardian.com

I'll watch it when it's streaming.

 

[tenordas]

Joker: Folie à Deux is on course for a catastrophic financial loss of up to $200m (£153m) as its dismal box office run continues amid a stream of critical brickbats and poor audience ratings.

According to a report in Variety, industry analysts say Joker: Folie à Deux is projected to earn a total of $65m at the North American box office, and around $215m elsewhere for a total of $280m – well below the estimated $300m the film cost to produce and promote.

With revenue splits with cinemas factored in, Variety say that in fact the film needs to earn around $450m to break even, though producing studio Warner Bros say that the break-even figure is in fact $375m.

In an effort to claw back revenue the film is headed for an early debut on home entertainment and streaming platforms on 29 October. Meanwhile the Rotten Tomatoes rating website has recorded an audience score of 32%.……..

Joker sequel on course for catastrophic $200m loss – reports

Folie à Deux is heading for an early debut on streaming platforms as its dismal run at the box office continues

www.theguardian.com

Answering the audience's question:

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[Optimus Prime]

To quote Heath Ledger’s version of the clown prince of crime, maybe some wag should be scrawling “Why so serious?” on glass-fronted offices at Warner Bros Discovery this week, as executives there contemplate the box-office implosion of Joker: Folie à Deux.

A catastrophic $37.7m opening weekend, the largest second-weekend drop for a DC film (81%), a worldwide take currently standing at a piddling $165m … how has the studio gone from the 2019 original, a billion-grosser that was then the highest earning R-rated film, to this?

If nothing else, the Joker is proving true to his reputation as an agent of chaos. But he is also the most beloved of comic-book villains from a storied franchise; a draw almost on par with Batman himself, making the disaster all the more unthinkable.

With bubonic word of mouth, Joker: Folie à Deux is now projected to lose $125m-200m, depending on whose budget estimate you believe. If it’s the $300m figure being generally touted for production and marketing, then this is clearly what has hobbled the film; it would leave it needing as much as $475m to break even.

Risky reinventions of hallowed pop-cultural icons are a lot more feasible on the first film’s sensible $60m budget.

$300m is a shocking amount. The money is up on the screen in the sense that director Todd Phillips and star Joaquin Phoenix were both paid $20m and supporting actor Lady Gaga $12m; over a quarter of the production budget in total.

But other than beautiful lighting and cinematography, and the climactic sequence, the film doesn’t look outrageously lavish.

A cloistered affair set largely in Arkham State Hospital and the courtroom, there’s virtually nothing in the way of extended CGI pyrotechnics to explain the spend.

The likeliest explanation is that it was a big bet born out of pandemic desperation for a surefire hit when cinemas reopened.

It seems doubly shocking in the light of Phillips and Phoenix choosing to make the film a musical – reportedly first considering it as a Broadway play. (The original’s staircase dance probably should have served as a warning.)

Even on paper, the genre doesn’t promise the kind of returns obliged by the budget, unless you’re a children’s animation.

And the sideways step out of realism into a cracked-voice travesty-musical was never likely to connect with the original’s core audience of Joker fanboys, let alone the embittered incel quotient whose preoccupations it channelled.

Nor do you imagine that Lady Gaga – fine as she is in the role – corresponds to what they’re accustomed to with past psycho-hottie depictions of Harley Quinn.……..

Why did Joker 2 lose so much money? And how on earth did it cost so much in the first place?

Todd Phillips’ first take on the supervillain was a billion-grossing smash, but setting out to chastise devoted fans with the second looks set to cost the film industry dear

www.theguardian.com

 

[DCSaints_Fan]

I'm just not sure they could have done much more with the character as it was presented in the first movie. Its hard to imagine Phoenix's joker as some sort of criminal mastermind. An agent of chaos, a rallying symbol for the downtrodden, maybe. But that was pretty much played out in the first film.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I'm just not sure they could have done much more with the character as it was presented in the first movie. Its hard to imagine Phoenix's joker as some sort of criminal mastermind. An agent of chaos, a rallying symbol for the downtrodden, maybe. But that was pretty much played out in the first film.

which is why i think the ending made a lot of sense.
now the rest of the movie was just weird..

 

[2009ring]

When you make a sequel that no one wanted, this is bound to happen.

Props to Phoenix and Lady Gaga for not complaining that the poor performance is due to some toxic -phobes or -ists like the Acolyte cast did.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

When you make a sequel that no one wanted, this is bound to happen.

Props to Phoenix and Lady Gaga for not complaining that the poor performance is due to some toxic -phobes or -ists like the Acolyte cast did.

to be fair, the phobes and ists made their position well known about the Acolyte. no one loves the cancel culture more than the anti-"woke"..

but theres no reason for the ists with the joker 2, it was just a bad screen play all around. sometimes even good acting can't save a bad script..

 

[2009ring]

sometimes even good acting can't save a bad script..

Funny that you mention the Acolyte cuz this pretty much hits the nail on the head for that as well.

 

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