Just looked at the numbers (1 Viewer)

[David Robbins]

Joe Woods is not a good coordinator. His numbers are below average for the raiders, browns, and broncos. Granted, he never had the talent this team has, but it's a good thing Dennis Allen is still the true coordinator. His points given up, and turnovers are all bad.

 

[Rouxble]

@ndcc posted this the other day, from the video Woods experience looks good on paper:

 

[David Robbins]

Experience can't trump the numbers though. Talent of the teams are the only thing different

 

[TribuneUK]

Experience can't trump the numbers though. Talent of the teams are the only thing different

If the New England Patriots had looked at Belichick's WLT numbers as HC of the Browns, he wouldn't be a Hall of Fame coach.

All numbers are just data points waiting to be misinterpreted or manipulated by humans looking for patterns.

 

[NatureBoy]

He’s not a DC in the traditional sense here. He is more of what Pete Carmichael was to Sean. I don’t think anyone will accuse Pete of being a good OC, but it worked within those parameters.

 

[SweetT]

If the New England Patriots had looked at Belichick's WLT numbers as HC of the Browns, he wouldn't be a Hall of Fame coach.

All numbers are just data points waiting to be misinterpreted or manipulated by humans looking for patterns.

Bill did implement a high tech spy strategy to game the system…..just saying

 

[Mamba]

He is more of what Pete Carmichael was to Sean. I don’t think anyone will accuse Pete of being an good OC, but it worked within those parameters.

I’ll make that accusation. What Pete Carmichael did last year after all the injuries was damn impressive. I don’t care what the majority says. We’re lucky to still have him.

 

[Alan12]

Joe Woods is not a good coordinator. His numbers are below average for the raiders, browns, and broncos. Granted, he never had the talent this team has, but it's a good thing Dennis Allen is still the true coordinator. His points given up, and turnovers are all bad.

His 2018 Broncos gave up fewer points (21.8 ppg) than our 2018 Saints (22.1 ppg) and we were considered a pretty good defense that year. In fact, had the Broncos given up 1 less TD that year, they would’ve been a top-10 scoring defense.

Same thing with his 2021 Browns, they were again 13th in points (which isn’t terrible) and 1 less TD would’ve put them tied for 8th.

Looking at rankings is one thing but that just goes to show how thin the margin can be between these teams where 1 score can move a team from top-10 to middle of the pack any given season.

 

[COACHTDL]

We have a new DC, but what new position coaches have been hired on defense?

 

[TribuneUK]

Bill did implement a high tech spy strategy to game the system…..just saying

And the years they won when he didn't...? I'm no Pats apologist but the point stands, HOF coach.

 

[NatureBoy]

I’ll make that accusation. What Pete Carmichael did last year after all the injuries was damn impressive. I don’t care what the majority says. We’re lucky to still have him.

I think Pete did a good job under the circumstances, but last year doesn’t define him as a good OC. We’ll see. Like I say about DA, Sean’s shadow is huge and it lingers. Both are trying to step out of it. A year down the road is probably a better time to start passing judgement, than last year. Last year they both managed to keep their heads above water under difficult circumstances.

 

[rsmith2783]

I use to get upset at the "Good ol boy network" that's common among NFL teams, but it's something that's going to happen regardless. Payton was allowed to bring in "his people" and now we're seeing the same with Allen. Is it a smart move? Time will tell. But if it fails, then know that we had a good thing until someone tinkered with it.

 

[Archie's Boyz]

If the New England Patriots had looked at Belichick's WLT numbers as HC of the Browns, he wouldn't be a Hall of Fame coach.

All numbers are just data points waiting to be misinterpreted or manipulated by humans looking for patterns.

Heck, if Bledsoe doesn't get injured, Belichick may not be a HOF coach!

 

[rsmith2783]

Heck, if Bledsoe doesn't get injured, Belichick may not be a HOF coach!

Yep we've seen this before. Sometimes the players make the coach, or the coach make the players. BB hasn't been the same since Brady left.

 

[Surgeon]

Joe Woods is not a good coordinator. His numbers are below average for the raiders, browns, and broncos. Granted, he never had the talent this team has, but it's a good thing Dennis Allen is still the true coordinator. His points given up, and turnovers are all bad.

There is more reason to doubt him than to support him. I do not think our defence will be as good as last year unfortunately.