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I'm settling on Kafka as my personal choice if moving on from Rizzi. Check the video of him interacting w/ players. Sean Payton esque w/ his attention to detail (calls out spacing in one clip) and how he individually motivates different players. Also seems to have a fun and relatable personality while still coming across as demanding. I enjoyed this video. He's my age so he's the young gun people want, and he's an offensive mind w/ connections to the development of Patrick Mahomes.

Also, if I recall the 1st year under Dabol in NY w/ Daniel Jones he was the playcaller. Jones got hurt the 2nd year and then Dabol took over playcalling in 2024.

I'd be elated if we kept Rizzi and he hires Kafka for OC.

Edit: Here's an article i found from 2022 when searching for his offensive philosophy. I'm wondering if he and Dabol's vision for the offense are different and that's what lead to certain issues in the 2nd year and ultimately losing playcalling duties. I'd be interested in what things would look like if he's allowed to implement his vision and then hire people that support it.

He's a personnell and packages guy like Payton and even his word usage of "guidelines" is familiar w/ Drew once mentioning that some players had guidelines and some rules within the offense during discussions.

"I'm not big on putting guys in a box, so I like giving them some freedom, giving them some baseline guidelines to work within, and then letting those guys work it out because at the end of the day, you know I'm staying on the sideline," Kafka added. "I'm in the press box or whatever it is and those guys are the guys on the field. They gotta go play so they got to make sure that they're on the same page."


 
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I'm settling on Kafka as my personal choice if moving on from Rizzi. Check the video of him interacting w/ players. Sean Payton esque w/ his attention to detail (calls out spacing in one clip) and how he individually motivates different players. Also seems to have a fun and relatable personality while still coming across as demanding. I enjoyed this video. He's my age so he's the young gun people want, and he's an offensive mind w/ connections to the development of Patrick Mahomes.

Also, if I recall the 1st year under Dabol in NY w/ Daniel Jones he was the playcaller. Jones got hurt the 2nd year and then Dabol took over playcalling in 2024.

I'd be elated if we kept Rizzi and he hires Kafka for OC.


That clip just shows a coach coaching. Nothing particularly amazing or unusual to my mind. You see the same from peewee and up.
 
Check the video of him interacting w/ players. Sean Payton esque w/ his attention to detail (calls out spacing in one clip) and how he individually motivates different players. Also seems to have a fun and relatable personality while still coming across as demanding. I enjoyed this video. He's my age so he's the young gun people want, and he's an offensive mind w/ connections to the development of Patrick Mahomes.

Posted this elsewhere ... might as well post it here, too (very slight edits:

Kafka has some things in common with where Sean Payton was in 2006.

Payton had only coached one Pro Bowl QB before Brees, Tony Romo. BUT Payton also squeezed every drop of juice out of guys like Kerry Collins and Quincy Carter (and then later in N.O. with Teddy Bridgewater).

Kafka, similarly, has only coached one Pro Bowl QB, Patrick Mahomes. But Kafka squeezed every drop out of guys like Daniel Jones, Tyrod Taylor, Tommy DeVito, and Drew Lock. Seriously, look at the jump Jones made in 2022 when Kafka came aboard -- I bet a lot of people don't remember that the Giants won a road playoff game that season:


Kafka was still the Giants' OC in 2023. Jones battled through a neck injury in 2023 that sapped his arm strength and cost him three starts. Then he went on IR with a knee in November. Tyrod Taylor and Tommy Devito split the rest of the starts and did better than they had any right to expect (both with identical QBRs of 89 and a combined 13-6 TD-INT ratio).
 
[Kafka's] an offensive mind w/ connections to the development of Patrick Mahomes.
A lot of people pooh-pooh this, saying "Mahomes didn't need coaching -- he was immediately a HOF player out the box!" I think that take is misguided.

It's not that Kafka had to take Mahomes from a lousy player to a great one. What Kafka had a big hand in (yes, alongside others like Andy Reid and Alex Smith) was maximizing Mahomes' natural gifts and teaching him to prepare like a pro.

That's what a team should be looking for in part -- a coach that can maximize what they have. If they have Mahomes? Awesome, they're part of a Super Bowl squad. If they have Daniel Jones? You build him up having career highs in several passing and rushing categories, put up a winning record, and win a playoff game. You have Tommy DeVito and Tyrod Taylor? You wring out .500 ball with effective game management and about league-average passing efficiency.
 
While he has us intrigued and we may want to pick his brain some, I feel in the end he is merely a Rooney Rule checkbox…JMO.
 
I'm settling on Kafka as my personal choice if moving on from Rizzi. Check the video of him interacting w/ players. Sean Payton esque w/ his attention to detail (calls out spacing in one clip) and how he individually motivates different players. Also seems to have a fun and relatable personality while still coming across as demanding. I enjoyed this video. He's my age so he's the young gun people want, and he's an offensive mind w/ connections to the development of Patrick Mahomes.

Also, if I recall the 1st year under Dabol in NY w/ Daniel Jones he was the playcaller. Jones got hurt the 2nd year and then Dabol took over playcalling in 2024.

I'd be elated if we kept Rizzi and he hires Kafka for OC.

Edit: Here's an article i found from 2022 when searching for his offensive philosophy. I'm wondering if he and Dabol's vision for the offense are different and that's what lead to certain issues in the 2nd year and ultimately losing playcalling duties. I'd be interested in what things would look like if he's allowed to implement his vision and then hire people that support it.

He's a personnell and packages guy like Payton and even his word usage of "guidelines" is familiar w/ Drew once mentioning that some players had guidelines and some rules within the offense during discussions.

"I'm not big on putting guys in a box, so I like giving them some freedom, giving them some baseline guidelines to work within, and then letting those guys work it out because at the end of the day, you know I'm staying on the sideline," Kafka added. "I'm in the press box or whatever it is and those guys are the guys on the field. They gotta go play so they got to make sure that they're on the same page."




I don't think he's as dark as most people want to believe. The things you hear about Kafka were the same things you heard about Payton. And I didn't want him, either.
 

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