Kellen Moore expected to be Saints coach (39 Viewers)

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efil4stnias said:
apparently im a day behind lolol.

already been reported so mostly what yall already know.

no earth-shattering, mind-changing info.

Just a pop up on phone that had a "release" time of 3 hrs ago when in fact, it was more likely yesterday
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Yeah, I'm sure Sirianni is pushing for him to stay. He doesn't want to lose a good coach and frankly if he wasn't pushing for him to stay, maybe we shouldn't be hiring him? Anyway, he can push all he wants but if the man with the money is saying he is going it likely means he's not going to give him a money offer he can't refuse. And why would he, Sirianni is supposed to be an offensive guy so I doubt Lurie wants to pay huge money for an OC when he already has a great OC as the HC.

Obviously it's not done until it's done and it could come down to more than money, but doubling or tripling his salary should calm down any issues. Still, I think we will all remain nervous until it's official.

 
weunice said:
All of this posturing is to ensure the Saints give him the bag. If he doesn't take it, then he has to wait through a year where injuries could derail their
"run it back" season and present him with other franchises in terrible situations to take over -- if he even ends up on the short list next season. 75% of success at the highest level in this league is good fortune on injuries and turnovers. How many Super Bowls were we a few bounces or critical injuries from being in? --- The part he can control? Getting paid more in a career path fraught with risk and short tenures. The opportunity is now.
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It really comes down to if he wants to bet on himself. Ben Johnson could have been a HC 2 season ago. He took the gamble and waited a couple of years and then landed a pretty good job with the Bears.

To be clear I am really hoping he takes the job, and I think he will. But him and his team are stupid if there not at least thinking about waiting another cycle and seeing if his stock can rise and maybe a better opportunity opens up.
 
ravenblade23x said:
It really comes down to if he wants to bet on himself. Ben Johnson could have been a HC 2 season ago. He took the gamble and waited a couple of years and then landed a pretty good job with the Bears.

To be clear I am really hoping he takes the job, and I think he will. But him and his team are stupid if there not at least thinking about waiting another cycle and seeing if his stock can rise and maybe a better opportunity opens up.
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Moore has been in the interview process for HC jobs for several years already. He knows what is out there and how hard it is to get that offer. He has also learned that your star can fall as fast as it rises. He was a hot candidate for a couple years in Dallas, but likely too young to get an offer, then it fell far with the Chargers. And now it's back up with Philly. All it takes is one injury to Saquon or Hurts and suddenly Philly fans are yelling for a new OC. It's happened before in Philly in just one year.

You can bet on yourself, but sometimes failure is outside of your control. And I think winning the Super Bowl may make it easier for him to move on since he won't feel like there is unfinished business in Philly.

Doesn't mean he won't decide to wait another year, but what Johnson did was a huge gamble and by far the exception, not the rule.
 
Mojomajik9 said:
Ben Johnson got all the fanfare but it seems to me that Kellen Moore was just as impressive if not more so. After all is said and done we could all look back and see how the Saints got the best OC available this cycle.
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I think he certainly has just as good of a chance of being successful as Ben Johnson, Coen, Schottenheimer, and Aaron Glenn. And maybe a better shot than some of them.
 
ravenblade23x said:
It really comes down to if he wants to bet on himself. Ben Johnson could have been a HC 2 season ago. He took the gamble and waited a couple of years and then landed a pretty good job with the Bears.

To be clear I am really hoping he takes the job, and I think he will. But him and his team are stupid if there not at least thinking about waiting another cycle and seeing if his stock can rise and maybe a better opportunity opens up.
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Waiting two years and then getting the Bears? That doesn't make the greatest case for waiting.
 
ravenblade23x said:
It really comes down to if he wants to bet on himself. Ben Johnson could have been a HC 2 season ago. He took the gamble and waited a couple of years and then landed a pretty good job with the Bears.

To be clear I am really hoping he takes the job, and I think he will. But him and his team are stupid if there not at least thinking about waiting another cycle and seeing if his stock can rise and maybe a better opportunity opens up.
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Respectfully disagree. Moore just won a SB with the Eagles, while Johnson didn't even make it to the game. Your stock will never be higher than when you're holding the Lombardi. Maybe that's what Johnson was holding out for? If Moore has aspirations of being a HC, this is the time he is viewed as being at "peak hotness". Ask Bobby Slowik what happens the year after you failed to land a HC opportunity. Not saying any of that is a given....just what I believe is statistically likely.

What is statistically likely is that Moore is already on the most desirable tier, and there's only 1 opportunity available for him to exploit that popularity. Waiting another year for a "better opportunity" is certainly an option. But there are MANY downside risks to that, while the only upside is that he'll STILL be viewed as a top-tier SB winning HC candidate. Unless Moore was born in Atlanta, or was otherwise raised to despise the Saints, the smart money takes the bird in hand opportunity. Saints are going to have to really bungle something to undo this. Otherwise, he's coming. Let him enjoy the spoils of victory with his guys, and to remember the euphoria of planting his flag on the mountain. And let him wonder what it must feel like to be the man....the HC....who orchestrated the entire thing, rather than just doing his part. We are ready for you....BRING IT Coach!
 
St. Widge said:
I think he certainly has just as good of a chance of being successful as Ben Johnson, Coen, Schottenheimer, and Aaron Glenn. And maybe a better shot than some of them.
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This is as good a comment to springboard off as any, but when asked about the nature of his pregame speech, Sirianni mentioned Pacino's speech in Any Given Sunday, said it was "awesome...but it don't work that way". Said his job isn't to inspire but rather to remind the players of what they already know, and said winning usually comes down to being the toughest, the most together, and the most detailed. I found that interesting in light of the discussions that have taken place on this board and what fans want to see in a coach, and relevant to how it depicts the culture Moore is a part of in Philly.
 

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