Kellen Moore most likely to be Saints coach per Garafalo, Hire not finalized yet due to SB; Kellen Moore in driver seat per Jonathan Jones (72 Viewers)

You're making stuff up to avoid discussing the actual objective facts. I'm relaxed and speaking the truth is easy. That's why I'm not making up stuff about you like you are with me.

It actually seems you are the one that is uncomfortable with the actual facts. Why else would you dismiss me personally and avoid addressing the objective facts that I pointed out?

You don't hesitate to let people know when you disagree with them, but then seem to be put off by others disagreeing with you. Not saying, just saying.

Peace my brother.

I’m not here to argue brother. I clearly said it was is my “belief.”

We get it. We don’t know for sure. All I said was that it was my belief.

Why is it so important for you to throw water on everyone’s beliefs of what could be occurring, based on what we know and the history of these things and rules of the league? We get it and understand; we don’t know with 100% certainty and won’t until the ink is dry.

It’s not that I am put off by you disagreeing with me; I just don’t understand why there even needs to be a disagreement at all here.

It’s like some people’s sole objective here is to disagree just for the sake of argument or to have something to talk about. Not everything needs to be corrected.
 
After the Cardinals were penalized a couple of years ago when they hired Gannon, I'm guessing that everyone is being very careful to carefully follow the rules and keep their mouth shut for the next week and a half.
The Cardinals were not penalized for the press announcing sources told them Gannon would be hired.

The Cardinals were penalized, because the GM of the Cardinals spoke the Gannon during the time that contact with coaches was forbidden.

A lot of people are jumping to conclusions based on inaccurate understanding of the actual facts.
 
I’m not here to argue brother. I clearly said it was is my “belief.”
And yet you are voicing your disagreement with me and others. I'm okay with people voicing their disagreement with me, which is why it's always odd when people who diagree with me call me out personally for disagreeing with them.

Why is it so important for you to throw water on everyone’s beliefs of what could be occurring, based on what we know and the history of these things and rules of the league?
I'm just stating objectively accurate facts. I'm not throwing water on anyone's beliefs. Why do you keep taking personal shots at me? Is that all you can bring to the discussion at this point? Why can't you just stick to the facts instead of making comments about me or what you think my motivation is?

It’s not that I am put off by you disagreeing with me; I just don’t understand why there even needs to be a disagreement at all here.
There's no more of a need for me to disagree with what you say as their is a need for you to disagree with what I and others say. I mean, you disagree with me and others a lot. I don't ever think or say "why are you disagreeing with me?"
 
And yet you are voicing your disagreement with me and others. I'm okay with people voicing their disagreement with me, which is why it's always odd when people who diagree with me call me out personally for disagreeing with them.


I'm just stating objectively accurate facts. I'm not throwing water on anyone's beliefs. Why do you keep taking personal shots at me? Is that all you can bring to the discussion at this point? Why can't you just stick to the facts instead of making comments about me or what you think my motivation is?


There's no more of a need for me to disagree with what you say as their is a need for you to disagree with what I and others say. I mean, you disagree with me and others a lot. I don't ever think or say "why are you disagreeing with me?"

Personal shots? Are you kidding me? All because I said to relax and we get it?

As I said before, I am not here to argue.

All this just because I said my belief was, like most other people here and the media have speculated, that Moore is likely to be the head coach? Are you serious right now?

Maybe just stop interacting with me.
 
Personal shots? Are you kidding me?
Not kidding at all. You asked me a pointed question that that insinuated it was important to me to rain on everyone's parade. That's both inaccurate and about me personally. Don't worry, I'm not bothered by it all, just noticed it and pointed it out to you.

As I said before, I am not here to argue.
Yet, you argue with people a lot here. I do to. So do a lot of other people and there's nothing wrong with it. That's why I don't understand your reaction to me doing what you and a lot of other people here do.

Maybe just stop interacting with me.
I'll always be civil when I interact with you, but I'm going to respond to things you post if I want to respond to them. You should take it as a given that if you respond to something I say, then I'm going to reply.
 
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Not kidding at all. You asked me a pointed question that that insinuated it was important to me to rain on everyone's parade. That's both inaccurate and about me personally. Don't worry, I'm not bothered by it all, just noticed it and pointed it out to you.


Yet, you argue with people a lot here. I do to. So do a lot of other people and there's nothing wrong with it. That's why I don't understand your reaction to me doing what you and a lot of other people here do.


I'll always be civil when I interact with you, but I'm not going to not respond to things you post if I want to respond to them. You should take it as a given that if you respond to something I say, then I'm going to reply.

Likewise.

This whole thing started because I made a simple post, not even in response to you, pointing out the tea leaves, pointing out that this is every first time HC’s dream, that also typically money is a factor with these things, and that the radio silence from the Saints and past league history seems to mean Moore is the guy.

Nothing is “made up” there. It was just me pointing out known things, indicating it was my belief based on my own judgement and seemingly much of the media’s judgement.

You responded with the same thing you’ve been doing all day, pointing out facts as to why that isn’t so obvious to you, and I responded back that we get it, to relax, with a friendly laughing emoji.

You in turn went off on me about “Making stuff up,” “avoiding discussing objective facts,” “You don't hesitate to let people know when you disagree with them, blah blah blah,” etc etc.

All this extra stuff is completely unnecessary. I don’t understand why there was conflict here from the start.
 
Personal shots? Are you kidding me? All because I said to relax and we get it?

As I said before, I am not here to argue.

All this just because I said my belief was, like most other people here and the media have speculated, that Moore is likely to be the head coach? Are you serious right now?

Maybe just stop interacting with me.

Not to give you a hard time, but for not wanting to argue, both of you sure argue a lot.

Okay yes, I'm giving you a hard time. But it's kinda entertaining. :)
 
This whole thing started because I made a simple post, not even in response to you, pointing out the tea leaves, pointing out that this is every first time HC’s dream, that also typically money is a factor with these things, and that the radio silence from the Saints and past league history seems to mean Moore is the guy.
That's not the whole truth. Just yesterday on this same subject, you responded in disagreement with me about something I said to someone else on the same subject.

I didn't think twice about you chiming in to disagree with me when I was talking to someone else. I simply replied to you letting you know how and why I disagreed. After a few back and forth posts between us, you did pretty much the same thing you just did in our discussion today:

Didn’t think my comment was that serious to where it needed a rebuttal, but okay. We’ll see if they withdraw, NBD. Geesh. 😂

You chimed in on something I said to someone else and disagreed with me. And then after a few exchanges in which you equally expressed disagreement with me, you jumped to the above comment.

Nothing is “made up” there.
You said I needed to relax. That's making up the falsity that I wasn't relaxed which implies I was reacting emotionally. That's made up on your part.

You asked why it's so important to me to rain on other people's parades. That again is making up falsities about my intentions, motivations and state of mind.

So, yes, you did make up stuff about me just like I said you did. And wait for it...

You in turn went off on me...
...and you just did it again. I did not go off on you. I simply pointed out the objective fact that you stopped talking about the situation with the Saints and started talking about my state of mind, motives and intentions.

If you feel like what I said was "going off" on you, then that's something going on with you, because I didn't go off on you at all. I just pointed out what was true.

All this extra stuff is completely unnecessary.
Then why do you keep doing it? Why do you keep talking about me and not the situation with the Saints. Just like you turned this conversation in this direction, you can turn it right back to the Saints situation.

If you keep talking about me in ways that aren't true, then I'm going to respond to set the record straight.

I don’t understand why there was conflict here from the start.
You started making false comments about me, so I responded. It's as simple as that.
 
That's not the whole truth. Just yesterday on this same subject, you responded in disagreement with me about something I said to someone else on the same subject.

I didn't think twice about you chiming in to disagree with me when I was talking to someone else. I simply replied to you letting you know how and why I disagreed. After a few back and forth posts between us, you did pretty much the same thing you just did in our discussion today:



You chimed in on something I said to someone else and disagreed with me. And then after a few exchanges in which you equally expressed disagreement with me, you jumped to the above comment.


You said I needed to relax. That's making up the falsity that I wasn't relaxed which implies I was reacting emotionally. That's made up on your part.

You asked why it's so important to me to rain on other people's parades. That again is making up falsities about my intentions, motivations and state of mind.

So, yes, you did make up stuff about me just like I said you did. And wait for it...


...and you just did it again. I did not go off on you. I simply pointed out the objective fact that you stopped talking about the situation with the Saints and started talking about my state of mind, motives and intentions.

If you feel like what I said was "going off" on you, then that's something going on with you, because I didn't go off on you at all. I just pointed out what was true.


Then why do you keep doing it? Why do you keep talking about me and not the situation with the Saints. Just like you turned this conversation in this direction, you can turn it right back to the Saints situation.

If you keep talking about me in ways that aren't true, then I'm going to respond to set the record straight.


You started making false comments about me, so I responded. It's as simple as that.

:::done, not interested in responding:::
 
Jesus pages of 2 posters arguing. Maybe SR can create an arguments/beef forum tab at the top of the website? Folks can take it to that and just go at it all day long.
 
I just have a thought, I recently found out Kellen has a brother Kirby Moore. What if he decides to bring his brother with him to New Orleans on the staff?
 
I just have a thought, I recently found out Kellen has a brother Kirby Moore. What if he decides to bring his brother with him to New Orleans on the staff?

Then his brother will be in New Orleans on the staff. Is there some reason to think that would be a good or bad thing?
 

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