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Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire are circulating after Hillary Clinton reversed a mammoth pre-polling deficit to defeat Barack Obama with the aid of Diebold electronic voting machines, while confirmed votes for Ron Paul in the Sutton district were not even counted.

According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero.

With 100% of precincts now reporting, the map still says zero votes for Ron Paul as you can see below.

http://www.bostonnow.com/blogs/boston911truthorg/2008/01/09/major-allegations-of-vote-fraud-in-new-hampshire



I just pulled this off a Ron Paul forum

Now a lawsuit has been filed to eliminate electronic voting machines in all 50 states.
For Immediate release - NCEL - All 50 states are being sued to prevent the use of computerized voting systems during the 2008 primary and general elections and beyond. The lawsuit seeks to halt the use of machine-based voting systems and vote counting procedures that hide the ballots and the counting of votes from the People.

The NCEL complaint challenges the constitutionality of current voting procedures in the states, claiming that they "heighten the possibility of confusion, deception, frustration, and fraud." It contends that the existing practices are constitutionally deficient and prevent open, verifiable, transparent voting, and that the use of discredited electronic voting machines and flawed vote counting procedures drastically increase the likelihood of error and election fraud. The lawsuit calls for a visible chain of ballot custody with paper ballots kept in full public view throughout the voting, counting, and tallying process. The lawsuit asks the Court to prohibit the states from conducting elections that are not open, verifiable, transparent and machine and computer free.

The US Supreme Court has declared the meaning of the Right to vote, as guaranteed by the US Constitution. Individuals not only have the Right to cast a vote, they have the Right to cast an effective vote, meaning they have the Right to have their vote counted correctly. "We need to bring transparency and accountability to the voting process throughout the states," said Bob Schulz, who wrote the brief and is spearheading the nationwide effort. "We need to reclaim our vote and ensure that our voices are heard and that our votes are accurately counted. The only sure way to do that is to have the People, in the light of day, observe, verify, and secure the votes cast on paper ballots and to count those ballots before the public by hand."



Since at least 1988, the ballots in 49 states and half of New Hampshire are hidden from the people and counted in secret by computers. This procedure violates two Supreme Court rulings. NCEL was filed in all 50 states to remedy this freedom threatening problem.

Read the National Clean Elections Lawsuit . NCEL was filed to restore hand-marked, hand counted paper ballots that never leave the sight or custody of the people until the ballots are counted and the results posted in each neighborhood polling place. This means machine-free, computer-free counts in our elections once again.


http://ncel.w4sp.com/



http://www.WETHEPEOPLEFOUNDATION.org


http://www.VOTEFRAUD.org:


http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/




Diebold voting machinges have been controversial from the beginning.
On July 31, 2002, Cathy Cox, Georgia's Secretary of State, signed a contract with Diebold, allowing the firm to distribute electronic voting machines throughout the state, design the ballots, and then monitor the election, without any state oversight. "[1]" "[2]"

In August 2003, Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush and had sent a get-out-the-funds letter to 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends in the Republican Party, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio.[5] When assailed by critics for the conflict of interest, he pointed out that the company's election machines division is run out of Texas by a registered Democrat. Nonetheless, he vowed to lower his political profile lest his personal actions harm the company.

In December 2005, O'Dell resigned following reports that the company was facing securities fraud litigation surrounding charges of insider trading.[6]

In March 2007, it was reported by the Associated Press that Diebold was considering divesting itself of its voting machine subsidiary because it was "widely seen as tarnishing the company's reputation".[7]

In August 2007, Wikipedia Scanner found that edits via the company's IP addresses occurred to Diebold's Wikipedia article, removing criticisms of the company's products, references to its CEO's fund-raising for President Bush and other negative criticism from the Wikipedia page about the company in November 2005.[8]

In January 2008, a 3-5% discrepancy was pointed out between hand-counted votes and Diebold machine votes in the New Hampshire Democratic primary. ["http://www.maltastar.com/pages/msFullArt.asp?an=17896"]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold
 

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Wow Ron Paul just can't catch a break can he.

oh and...

HITLARY!! :mad:
 
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This isn't the first time the Diebold machines would have been tampered with.
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I honestly think that either the pre New Hampshire polls were rigged for Obama (not real likely imo 99% of the polls had Obama winning) or the Primary vote was manipulated. I just can't see Hillary's tears being enough to overcome Obama's lead in one day.
 

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I honestly think that either the pre New Hampshire polls were rigged for Obama (not real likely imo 99% of the polls had Obama winning) or the Primary vote was manipulated. I just can't see Hillary's tears being enough to overcome Obama's lead in one day.
The pre NH polls had Obama with 37%, he got 37%. Obama basically got exactly what the polls said he would. Hillary on the other hand got a lot more than they thought she would.

My guess is turnout went to Hillary. Last night was a record for NH in turnout.
 
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The pre NH polls had Obama with 37%, he got 37%. Obama basically got exactly what the polls said he would. Hillary on the other hand got a lot more than they thought she would.

My guess is turnout went to Hillary. Last night was a record for NH in turnout.
I want to agree but it is still too early to tell. Ron Paul did have 34 votes taken from him with proof. Diebold has had some serious voter fraud cases in the past. I have been watching this story from the sidelines all day but given the Boston Globe's article, the piece on MSNBC, the voters in one county coming forward and now the Lawsuit I think there is some truth to this. The question becomes how much truth. Was this a mistake in one county or fraud state wide?
 

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As a Paul supporter I really hope this helps his cause.

On the other hand, I really hope it was just a mistake. I hate losing faith in the general public.
 

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Washington state is all vote by mail now, has been for about 5 years. You have to darkent a dot and a machine counts it, but at least you have a paper copy availiable with a name on it to do a physical recount if nesscessary.

I think this is a better way to go, we don't need to know who won 5 min after the polls close, in fact, i think i would be better to wait a full week to allow real counting to be conducted, and then announce results.
 

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>>I honestly think that either the pre New Hampshire polls were rigged for Obama (not real likely imo 99% of the polls had Obama winning) or the Primary vote was manipulated. I just can't see Hillary's tears being enough to overcome Obama's lead in one day.

No. There are two likely problems: 1) The fact that New Hampshire allows you to register at the polls in a one step process without proof of identification and instead, only a statement of where you most likely sleep or where you plan to return after an extended absence and 2) Underpolled voters in the women's segment who bought into Hillary's "emotional moment" (Rush refers to this as Oprafication of America).

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My guess is turnout went to Hillary. Last night was a record for NH in turnout.
I'd say this is a pretty fair guess. One of the people I work with is from NH and her parents were really really keen on getting all the young people and college kids from NH to get out there and vote for Hillary. They organized busing and everything to kick up that turn out.
 

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I heard, but don't necessarily believe, that the Clinton campaign brought in people from Massachussetts to vote. This fits in with what TPS said about the requirements to vote, but I really do believe that Hillary won. A major vote fraud operation just seems highly unlikely, although I'm sure there were specific irregularities. It's not like she won by a few votes.
 

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