Marvel getting desperate (1 Viewer)

[Sun Wukong]

So this is pretty much confirmation that the new FF is taking place in their own universe to start things off. Marvel showed some official art of Human Torch today and if you look at the city in the background it's very much a retrofuturistic "world of tomorrow" kind of design and unlike anything on MCU Earth.

 

[St. Widge]

Yeah I know bashing on marvel is what all the cool old guys do, but last season of Ozark was… not good

I always knew you weren't a cool old guy.

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

Marvel Fans Explain Why The Silver Surfer Could Never Be Female

Though most incarnations of the superhero have been male, it was recently announced that Julia Garner would play a female Silver Surfer in a new Fantastic Four movie. The Onion asked Marvel fans why the Silver Surfer could never be a woman, and this is what they said.

www.theonion.com

 

[antipop]

remember when you could be certain the Onion was satire??

Pepperidge Farm remembers

 

[Sailorsaint]

remember when you could be certain the Onion was satire??

Pepperidge Farm remembers

It's satire, unless they are wearing a red ball cap, then it's serious.

 

[Dago]

I disagree
4chan is probably the catalyst, but clearly there is some mix of monetizing and weaponizing ‘fan’ hate
Just to make up % let’s say 33% love, 33% are meh and 33% hate a thing
Before the 4channing the meh fans wouldn’t engage
But now it seems the middle is being squeezed
The love section might pick up a few more (5%?), it we al know it’s easier to ***** about something than to silver lining so this who want to wet off quick takes will gravitate to ‘hate’ (10-15%)

So I do think we have to read through more toxicity than we did before
However, I don’t think it effects content creators too too much bc they know there’s not much substantive to the hate - it’s hate for its own sake- ie it’s not like creators could appease the haters (they don’t want to enjoy story, they just want to hate), so they realize there’s no point in chasing ghosts
(I think)

Possibly...but how much of it is 'sincere' and how much of it is just trolling for a reaction?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Possibly...but how much of it is 'sincere' and how much of it is just trolling for a reaction?

Everyone is an 8th grade edgelord
Say something borderline rude - wait to see what the reaction is:
either:
A. Double down
B. Show much outrage that eventually morphs into real rage and actual feelings of victim hood

 

[hockey2112]

Food for thought... my daughters and I collect Hasbro's Marvel Legends figures. I enjoy them because they remind me of the toys I collected in my youth (and I can often acquire the modern versions of toys that were out of reach or of characters who didn't have toys when I was a kid), and they enjoy them because they are representations of the characters they have experienced in animated series such as X-Men: TAS and the 90's Spider-Man cartoon, as well as from flipping through my old comics collection. It's a fun activity for us to share, and most importantly it is something that keeps them off of screens for awhile!

Hasbro is generally very good about staying true to the characters as they exist(ed) in their original media, whether that be specific comic appearances, TV show appearances, and of course the MCU appearance of characters in their MCU toy line. Their changes to characters are often very minimal... maybe a slight change to a costume or something like that, due to the fact that an existing mold that is "close enough" exists (thus, simply a cost-control measure). The vast majority of the time, their toys are accurate representations of their comic book counterparts.

I do understand that the movies are a different animal from the toys, but at their core they are both responsible for presenting these characters in a way that is palatable to the general consumer. Admittedly/arguably secondary to that is their responsibility to present the characters in a way that is respectful to that character's source material. Clearly, the toy industry (or at least Hasbro / Marvel Legends) has determined that their best path to market viability is by staying true to the source material. So why would that also not be true for the movies? Or, put a different and more conversationally-specific way, would general audiences truly decide not to go see a FF movie if the Silver Surfer were portrayed in a true-to-source way (male, nude/smooth, herald of Galactus)? If general audiences would indeed still go see a "true to source" FF movie (which would thus include a very strong female lead in Sue Storm), then what is the purpose of veering off-course with the Silver Surfer's portrayal, knowing that doing so would potentially alienate many of those who would prefer and expect to be presented with a true-to-source characterization of that individual, just as those same individuals would likely purchase an accurate Silver Surfer action figure and pass on a "created just for this toy line" female Silver Surfer that has no source history?

 

[bonnjer]

Well, here's an interesting rumor. I'd watch it for sure.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

^
I like
If the the idea is to do only 2-3 TV shows and movies
But also to pepper in more limited series and one offs, I’m down with that

 

[DaveXA]

Well, here's an interesting rumor. I'd watch it for sure.

Count me in.

 

[GW93]

Marvel is getting desperate if they’re turning to HISHE for ideas: