McAllister's deal proves there's no loyalty in NFL (1 Viewer)

[shrike3000]

McAllister's deal proves there's no loyalty in NFL

The next time you get sick of some player – Cowboys linebacker Greg Ellis comes to mind – grousing about his contract, think about New Orleans running back Deuce McAllister.

The Saints all-time leading rusher, who accepted Reggie Bush and splitting his role without complaint, blew out his knee for the second time in three years last season while trying to help the Saints win a game.

His reward: The Saints restructured his contract. (Read the rest at link below.)

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/jtaylor/stories/041608dnspoinsidecowboys.2c3df60.html

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I agree totally with this assessment. The teams get away with a lot of disloyalty and often players are vilified for trying to get paid. If Colston knew what was good for him he would be holding out right now. A player has to get paid while he is hot, because as soon as he is not its take a pay cut or get cut. Teams will underpay a guy for years but as soon as it looks they they might overpay look out...

 

[kevison]

That does sound quite harsh on the management/owner side of things. I hope Deuce makes the incentives to get his money. It doesn't say if he had restructured the rest of his deal, however.

 

[Complex Kid]

I agree that's why when an NFL player holds out I'm usually on their side. If it's a MLB or NBA player though they should shut up and play with the contract you signed because it guaranteed no matter what.

 

[CHI-TOWNSAINT]

Both sides do the exact same thing!

What about when Horn left us for the Birds? Where was his loyalty? What about when players agree to contracts for 5 years and the next year want to restructure because some of their counterparts got big raises.

It's really the same thing for both sides. The players get paid handsomely for their risky job. I don't feel sorry for any player or team, including Deuce. Deuce chose this profession, he has made enough money to support himself and his family for the rest of his life.

If the Front Office didn't do what was best for the team in every decision they make, they would be scrwing us fans! I respect Deuce a ton, but I root for the Saints first and foremost. If a deal showing loyaly to Deuce would put us behind the 8-ball down the road, I'd rather not do it.

 

[mister pc]

Deuce has two blown out knees, I dont think the Saints were being unreasonable by asking him to restructure. It was in the best interest of the team.

 

[Saints#34]

McAllister's deal proves there's no loyalty in NFL

The next time you get sick of some player – Cowboys linebacker Greg Ellis comes to mind – grousing about his contract, think about New Orleans running back Deuce McAllister.

The Saints all-time leading rusher, who accepted Reggie Bush and splitting his role without complaint, blew out his knee for the second time in three years last season while trying to help the Saints win a game.

His reward: The Saints restructured his contract. (Read the rest at link below.)

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...stories/041608dnspoinsidecowboys.2c3df60.html

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I agree totally with this assessment. The teams get away with a lot of disloyalty and often players are vilified for trying to get paid. If Colston knew what was good for him he would be holding out right now. A player has to get paid while he is hot, because as soon as he is not its take a pay cut or get cut. Teams will underpay a guy for years but as soon as it looks they they might overpay look out...

I don't. The loyalty comes in the form of signing bonuses. DM got paid up front big bucks. The fact is he is costing cap space. If he can't perform, the Saints have to pay someone else to fill his shoes. In a limited cap space situation, that means his money needs to go to someone else.

I love Deuce, I'm rooting for him, and I think he deserves at least a fair shake at coming back before the Saints look at moving on or asking for a true restructure. But if he can't produce, his salary just isn't justified anymore. He still made a small fortune working for New Orleans. Feel bad for Deuce because he is a talented, good individual derailed by unfortunate circumstances. Don't feel bad for him because of his monetary situation..

 

[BigRonJon]

There is no loyaly in business. Its not personal, its busine$$. What about when a team pays a huge bonus to a rookie or FA and they get hurt, or dont play well. That why the salary structure is the way it is. Deuce got his signing bonus $ when he signed that big contract.

All I'm getting at is there are 2 sides to this.

And I hope we pay Deuce and he retires a Saint!

 

[workhorse]

Jean Jacques Taylor is a blowhard...he doesn't know the details of the contract and neither do we...

The Saints could have cut him outright, but they didn't. Once the details come out, I'm sure it was a fair deal that was negotiated. Duece is a class act, no doubt, but I'm sure he is getting compensated well...and if he reaches the incentives, what ever they are, then he will not have lost any money.

 

[shrike3000]

Both sides do the exact same thing!

What about when Horn left us for the Birds? Where was his loyalty? What about when players agree to contracts for 5 years and the next year want to restructure because some of their counterparts got big raises.

It's really the same thing for both sides. The players get paid handsomely for their risky job. I don't feel sorry for any player or team, including Deuce. Deuce chose this profession, he has made enough money to support himself and his family for the rest of his life.

If the Front Office didn't do what was best for the team in every decision they make, they would be scrwing us fans! I respect Deuce a ton, but I root for the Saints first and foremost. If a deal showing loyaly to Deuce would put us behind the 8-ball down the road, I'd rather not do it.

That's the point. The team is doing what it should for us, the fans. The player however should not be looking out for us the fans, he should be looking out for himself and his family. Players SHOULD hold out of training camp, demand trades, etc. The teams show loyalty to the FANS by making the best deals they can and cutting vets instead of overpaying them. The teams rarely show loyalty to players. I don't blame players one bit for not showing their employers loyalty.

A player never knows when they will also have two blown knees and suddenly not be worth their contract, they should always do all they can to get the maximum amount of money they can while they are on the top of their game.

If Colston thinks by being quiet, classy, and loyal right now it will pay off for him later in his career when he has two blown knees he is mistaken. Get paid now.

 

[Sandman]

I disagree with the article. The deal shows there is loyalty. If there wasn't any loyalty to Deuce, he wouldn't be on the team. He had two season ending knee surgeries with no guarantee at this point that he has recovered. Despite that, the Saints worked a deal with him that would keep him a Saint, and if he is fully recovered, get him his money. I think Deuce realized that with the two knee surgeries, he wouldn't be a hot commodity on the free agency market. He wanted to remain a Saint, and the Saints wanted him to remain a Saint.

 

[gregh]

Both sides do the exact same thing!

What about when Horn left us for the Birds? Where was his loyalty? What about when players agree to contracts for 5 years and the next year want to restructure because some of their counterparts got big raises.

It's really the same thing for both sides. The players get paid handsomely for their risky job. I don't feel sorry for any player or team, including Deuce. Deuce chose this profession, he has made enough money to support himself and his family for the rest of his life.

If the Front Office didn't do what was best for the team in every decision they make, they would be scrwing us fans! I respect Deuce a ton, but I root for the Saints first and foremost. If a deal showing loyaly to Deuce would put us behind the 8-ball down the road, I'd rather not do it.

agreed. it's a business and the team is protecting itself just like players fight for every last penny they can get in the signing bonus because they know it's garunteed..

 

[CHI-TOWNSAINT]

That's the point. The team is doing what it should for us, the fans. The player however should not be looking out for us the fans, he should be looking out for himself and his family. Players SHOULD hold out of training camp, demand trades, etc. The teams show loyalty to the FANS by making the best deals they can and cutting vets instead of overpaying them. The teams rarely show loyalty to players. I don't blame players one bit for not showing their employers loyalty.

A player never know when they will also have two blown knees and suddenly not be worth their contract, they should always do all they can to get the maximum amount of money they can while they are on the top of their game.

If Colston thinks by being quiet, classy, and loyal right now it will pay off for him later in his career when he has two blown knees he is mistaken. Get paid now.

Don't forget who has the leverage. It's usually the organization. Most players can be replaced...if they hold out they risk a lot. Go ask Bobby Hebert.

 

[Albi]

Players say all the time when they hold out, "It's a Business". So the owners and teams have every right to play it the same way. The day players stop holding out for bigger contracts, is the day owners should stop cutting players/restructuring contracts for under-performing.

 

[HOF_Smeenge]

It's not like Deuce wasn't paid, he signed his big contract extension in 2005, and since has played about 1 and a half seasons of football in three seasons. So for 2005-2007 he still got his contracted salary unless I'm mistaken. I'm all for the Saints restructuring Deuce's contract in this situation and giving him an incentive option. As long as the Saints give him the chance to play enough to reach those incentives, Deuce shouldn't have a problem with it either if he thinks he can still go in the NFL. And apparently Deuce doesn't have a problem or else he would've refused the deal and tested the free agent market.

Deuce is a class act and I hope he makes and breaks all the incentive levels on his contract.

 

[Six Saint]

It is a business. Everything is about the bottom line.