Patriots are interviewing our LB coach for their defense coordinator position (1 Viewer)

[Elvis]

Doesn't matter. Unless the head coach as some success, no one cares if he has a "tree."

The tree concept is some weird ego thing to me. There are good coaches and not good coaches. Some good coaches work for bad coaches, some bad coaches work for good coaches. Some coaches learn things from other coaches they work with, some bring their own ideas to the collective. We've seen just as many branches of these trees drop all of their leaves once they leave the tree more times than we've seen them grow new trunks.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

The fact that DA has a successful coaching tree on defense yet doesn’t get respect on this board is intresting.

Aaron Glenn, Ryan Nielsen and potentially now Hodges.

The skeleton of his defense is successful in this league and teams are looking at it no different than teams wanting Shanahan and Mcvay offenses.

 

[jahsoul357]

The fact that DA has a successful coaching tree on defense yet doesn’t get respect on this board is intresting.

Aaron Glenn, Ryan Nielsen and potentially now Hodges.

The skeleton of his defense is successful in this league and teams are looking at it no different than teams wanting Shanahan and Mcvay offenses.

I separate DA; DC and HC. I can respect him as a DC while believing he might be over his head as an HC

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I separate DA; DC and HC. I can respect him as a DC while believing he might be over his head as an HC

Yes, and maybe he’s got a high ceiling but his floor is/was lower. Depends on how you view it

 

[Rouxble]

Honestly, since we shut them out last year, not a bad place to start looking for their DC.

 

[El Caliente]

That is a smart move by Mayo, our LB coach has been underrated for a while. He’s had very good success with the LBs since taking over after Mike Nolan left.

We’ve come a long way from Joe Vitt and Rick “I have photos” Venturi.

 

[Elvis]

We’ve come a long way from Joe Vitt and Rick “I have photos” Venturi.

Funny thing about Vitt, he's on the Broncos staff as a Senior Defensive Assistant. I figured he was retired a long time ago.

 

[St. Widge]

Funny thing about Vitt, he's on the Broncos staff as a Senior Defensive Assistant. I figured he was retired a long time ago.

Sean Payton can't quit Joe Vitt.

 

[St. Geezy]

DA purged the defensive staff but kept him. He's a good coach. And I won't be surprised if he's gone.

Sure, “purged.”



More like guys went running for the hills.

 

[dboysaints]

dont know him and dont care

 

[nakadish]

Sure, “purged.”



More like guys went running for the hills.

Maybe so. But they all got promotions because of DA.

 

[Judge_Smails]

Its not splitting hairs, you don't learn defensive concepts from an offensive coach, its DA's defense that is making his defensive staff members attractive to other teams.

Then why do people consider Josh McDaniels to be from Belichek’s coaching tree?

Honest question.

 

[Rouxble]

Then why do people consider Josh McDaniels to be from Belichek’s coaching tree?

Honest question.

I think it's a good question. You probably need two trees, one for scheme and one for head coaching. Aaron Glenn would be part of DA's tree for defensive scheme, if he gets promoted to HC then he should be part of Campbell's HC tree (which of course started with Payton, which started with Parcells, etc).

McDaniel would fall under Weis for scheme and Belichick for head coaching.

 

[Saint KayBee]

dont know him and dont care

He’s the position coach for all-pro linebacker Demario Davis. You should care. What’d you get from posting this?

 

[SystemShock]

Sure, but he was a defensive coach under DA. I don't think he learned a lot about defense from Payton. But you're right. Maybe that is splitting hairs.

The NFL is a very small club. Who the tree trunk is and who the branches are can get complicated. For example, there's talk on the site about the McVay tree... but McVay comes from Jay Gruden's staff... but Jay Gruden comes from the Marvin Lewis staff... and then you'll go on and on to the beginnings of football.

And even if you make a distinction between offensive and defensive trees, still, McVay wouldn't be the tree trunk, he'd be a branch off Jay Gruden.