Rivers, Ellis, Talib, Jenkins, or DRC? (1 Viewer)

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How do they fit into our scheme?

Rivers - IMO this is a sideline to sideline defender that will take the corner away from the quicker HBs we face consistently. With Fujita at SLB and Vilma at MLB, I see Rivers playing WLB in the NFL where his range, speed and coverage skills can excel.
Shanle is scrappy & instinctive, but Rivers should be able to supplant him in time. The guy is scary fast for a LB and kind of reminds me of a Derick Brooks/Derrick Johnson type LB. He flashes some serious pass rush skills too. If Ellis is off the board, I think this is the SAFEST pick because none of these CBs are solid enough to merit #10.

Ellis - this is the guy I really want. If BAL or NE take him, he will have to play NT in a 3-4 where IMO he will be less effective. If he falls to us, we can line him up as a 3-tech and turn him loose. The experts are comparing Dorsey to Warren Sapp and I'm comparing Ellis to LaRoi Glover. A short, stocky, tank of a lineman...He explodes off the line and does not get juked out by QBs in the pocket. He is a bit short, which is fine with me, He consistently gets under the pads of Centers and Guards. I hope he's there at #10.

Talib - I was high on this guy until I saw some game tape of him being burned by non-NFL caliber WRs. Maurice Purify and Jordy Nelson are NOT Day 1 picks. They both toasted Talib, who some crackheads have us taking at #10. This guy could develop into a shutdown corner because when it comes to leaping and defending the pass, he's one of the best, but he may struggle for several games before adjusting. At 6'2" 200, you would expect a good tackler, but he cuts and shys away from contact, often pushing ballcarriers out of bounds. I see Phillip Buchanon 2.0 and maybe a borderline 1st-2nd round talent. A huge reach at #10.

Jenkins - this guy is intriguing. The game tape shows a man-child that is blessed with 1st round speed, eye-popping recovery skills, and serious elusiveness after the INT, I also noticed he consistently has his back foot planted as the ball comes out of the QB's hands, making a possible INT machine a la Antonio Cromartie. The knock here is that he is undisciplined, unmotivated, and dissapears for parts of some games. He played on a suprisingly good defense and their vicious pass rush may have inflated Jenkins and teammate Trae Williams' numbers. I like his ball skills and I've seen him hit every once in awhile, but he needs to mature in a hurry if he wants to be the next shutdown CB like fellow USF alum Asante Samuel instead of flopping like Ahmad Carroll or Jamar Fletcher.

D. Rodgers-Cromartie - another big question mark and IMO still a reach at #10.
Pros: NFL Bloodlines, Excellent Senior Bowl/Combine Performance
Cons: Lack of NFL caliber competition/lacks focus and bites on pump fakes and play action. This can be coached and his measurables are attractive, I just don't know. This is risky IMO.

What do you guys think?
 
Good write up!

1.Ellis
2.Rivers
3.DRC
4.McKelvin
5.Talib
6. Jenkins

............who I want in order.
 
Good write up!

1.Ellis
2.Rivers
3.DRC
4.McKelvin
5.Talib
6. Jenkins

............who I want in order.

Wow CHITOWN, that's a nice list......
My Defensive Draft Board (BPA):
1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Sedrick Ellis
4. Keith Rivers
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Vernon Gholston
7. Aqib Talib
8. D. Rodgers-Cromartie
9. L. McKelvin
10. Kentwan Balmer

Obviously I'd pass on Long & Gholston considering our DE situation.
 
All I know is, were gonna be happy with the pick, we pick high and there is alot of talent to be had after the 9th pick.
 
Wow CHITOWN, that's a nice list......
My Defensive Draft Board (BPA):
1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Sedrick Ellis
4. Keith Rivers
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Vernon Gholston
7. Aqib Talib
8. D. Rodgers-Cromartie
9. L. McKelvin
10. Kentwan Balmer

Obviously I'd pass on Long & Gholston considering our DE situation.

Looking at my post it may be confusing.....that's not my top 6 overall, it's my top 6 of the players I think would be available.......just incase it was confusing. I would take Dorsey/C. Long/J. Long/Gholston before any of the 6 I listed.
 
All I know is, were gonna be happy with the pick, we pick high and there is alot of talent to be had after the 9th pick.

But like many previous drafts, we pick after teams that are going to snatch the players we covet off the board. NJ, NE, and CIN all are looking defense.
If only we picked at #8!
 
For some reason, I'm not sold on McKelvin. I'd take him in the 20-32 spots, but not at #10.
I kind of feel the same way about Talib, but his technique in defending the short to medium pass is way more polished than McKelvin's.
I just hope Coach Payton, Coach Gibbs, and the Loomis/Mueller duo see that while they are all promising, none of these DBs are worth the #10 pick.
A franchise DT or LB looks way more intelligent and safe here.
 
For some reason, I'm not sold on McKelvin. I'd take him in the 20-32 spots, but not at #10.
I kind of feel the same way about Talib, but his technique in defending the short to medium pass is way more polished than McKelvin's.
I just hope Coach Payton, Coach Gibbs, and the Loomis/Mueller duo see that while they are all promising, none of these DBs are worth the #10 pick.
A franchise DT or LB looks way more intelligent and safe here.


Mike D says leodis McKelvin is the best CB in the draft.............that only means something if you covet Mike's opinion. I'm not sold on any of the CB's @10.
 
I'm not sold on any of the CB's @10.
Yeah this is the recurring theme here. There will still be a worthwhile CB or S there in the 2nd plus there are still in league possibilities like Lito Sheppard.
If Dorsey is gone (he will be), I go Ellis without blinking. If Ellis is also gone, I go Rivers.
If Rivers is also gone, before picking the best CB available, I'd consider Kentwan Balmer.
Although it's our biggest need, Corner is my last resort at #10.
 
[quote=bagouser; If Ellis is also gone, I go Rivers.

DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOVE FOR RIVERS. WHE COONER OR LOFTEN SEEMED TO BE MORE ACTIVE TO THE BALL. IF ALL THE BIG GUYS{OT,DT}ARE GONE MENDENHALL OVER ANY OF THE CORNERS AT #10,IMO
 
ellis--yes this is a good pic he is a good pic at 10
rivers--I wouldn't take this guy in the first round. He is solid. We have solid guys. We need PLAYMAKERS!
talib--bust
jenkins--hes a decent corner. I would consider him at #10
DRC--I like his potential but hes a reach at #10
golston and dorsey---if their on the board take 'em !!
 
How do they fit into our scheme?

Rivers - IMO this is a sideline to sideline defender that will take the corner away from the quicker HBs we face consistently. With Fujita at SLB and Vilma at MLB, I see Rivers playing WLB in the NFL where his range, speed and coverage skills can excel.
Shanle is scrappy & instinctive, but Rivers should be able to supplant him in time. The guy is scary fast for a LB and kind of reminds me of a Derick Brooks/Derrick Johnson type LB. He flashes some serious pass rush skills too. If Ellis is off the board, I think this is the SAFEST pick because none of these CBs are solid enough to merit #10.

IF HE IS SO QUICK WHERE DID THE PRODUCTION GO
 
Of the ones mentioned -

Ellis
McKelvin
DRC

nobody else - don't want Talib, and especially not Rivers. Jenkins IMO would be a reach at 10.
 

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