Rivers, Ellis, Talib, Jenkins, or DRC? (1 Viewer)

So false.

I think Talib could be another MM. It will certainly take him a few years but I think it's possible.

Jenkins has horrible work ethic.

DRC didn't dominate his conference..Had a decent Senior Bowl.


Ellis=Beast

No, it probably is true. Rivers hasn't had the numbers to stand out. He has greatly benefited from the national exposure of USC. Not saying he isn't worth the hype though.

DRC did dominate his own conference. Thats been proven several times.

Jenkins is a great corner. I'd be fine with him. I haven't seen any real proof about his work ethic.

Ellis=Beast
 
I think Talib could be another MM. It will certainly take him a few years but I think it's possible.

Jenkins has horrible work ethic.

DRC didn't dominate his conference..Had a decent Senior Bowl.


Ellis=Beast

Maybe

Really?

Explain his non-dominance


Indeed!
 
1. Mike Jenkins

He isn't unmotivated or have a bad work ethic, that's just bunk... I don't know where some people got their false information, but it's completely inaccurate...

He disappears in games because he's shutdown his man for so long you forget he's even out there... I've seen half a game go by and realize his name hasn't been called once because the WR he's covering hasn't even had a pass intended in his direction...

Thanks SaintsRays. I never got why people bashed on Jenkins so much. The couple of games that I saw, he was lights out. Kind of reminds me of MM in this way. You simply don't hear his name much, which for a CB is usually a good thing. Of all the CB's, I personally think Jenkins is the best pure CB of the bunch.
I think one thing that puts McKelvin up there is his ability to be a returner as well.
I like all of DRC's measurables and such, but I think he'll be a project for a couple of years.
I'm not particularly high on Talib. I think he's a good CB and will be a good one, but I wouldn't pick him at #10(or DRC for that matter).

My wish list is:
1)Dorsey or Ellis if either fall
2)Jenkins
3)Rivers
4)McKelvin

In the 2nd, I'm really hoping that Mayo falls to us. Another guy I'd really like in the 2nd would be Cason (CB Ariz).
 
I'm not sure DRC will even be there when we pick, let alone Ellis or Dorsey. The more I see and read about him, the more I want DRC. You have to take Ellis or Dorsey if they are there, but if not DRC or McKelvin.
 
"I like his ball skills and I've seen him hit every once in awhile, but he needs to mature in a hurry if he wants to be the next shutdown CB like fellow USF alum Asante Samuel instead of flopping like Ahmad Carroll or Jamar Fletcher"

Asante Samuel went to UCF not USF.
 
sorry to bring up such an old post but...jordy nelson IS an nfl caliber wr

How do they fit into our scheme?

Rivers - IMO this is a sideline to sideline defender that will take the corner away from the quicker HBs we face consistently. With Fujita at SLB and Vilma at MLB, I see Rivers playing WLB in the NFL where his range, speed and coverage skills can excel.
Shanle is scrappy & instinctive, but Rivers should be able to supplant him in time. The guy is scary fast for a LB and kind of reminds me of a Derick Brooks/Derrick Johnson type LB. He flashes some serious pass rush skills too. If Ellis is off the board, I think this is the SAFEST pick because none of these CBs are solid enough to merit #10.

Ellis - this is the guy I really want. If BAL or NE take him, he will have to play NT in a 3-4 where IMO he will be less effective. If he falls to us, we can line him up as a 3-tech and turn him loose. The experts are comparing Dorsey to Warren Sapp and I'm comparing Ellis to LaRoi Glover. A short, stocky, tank of a lineman...He explodes off the line and does not get juked out by QBs in the pocket. He is a bit short, which is fine with me, He consistently gets under the pads of Centers and Guards. I hope he's there at #10.

Talib - I was high on this guy until I saw some game tape of him being burned by non-NFL caliber WRs. Maurice Purify and Jordy Nelson are NOT Day 1 picks. They both toasted Talib, who some crackheads have us taking at #10. This guy could develop into a shutdown corner because when it comes to leaping and defending the pass, he's one of the best, but he may struggle for several games before adjusting. At 6'2" 200, you would expect a good tackler, but he cuts and shys away from contact, often pushing ballcarriers out of bounds. I see Phillip Buchanon 2.0 and maybe a borderline 1st-2nd round talent. A huge reach at #10.

Jenkins - this guy is intriguing. The game tape shows a man-child that is blessed with 1st round speed, eye-popping recovery skills, and serious elusiveness after the INT, I also noticed he consistently has his back foot planted as the ball comes out of the QB's hands, making a possible INT machine a la Antonio Cromartie. The knock here is that he is undisciplined, unmotivated, and dissapears for parts of some games. He played on a suprisingly good defense and their vicious pass rush may have inflated Jenkins and teammate Trae Williams' numbers. I like his ball skills and I've seen him hit every once in awhile, but he needs to mature in a hurry if he wants to be the next shutdown CB like fellow USF alum Asante Samuel instead of flopping like Ahmad Carroll or Jamar Fletcher.

D. Rodgers-Cromartie - another big question mark and IMO still a reach at #10.
Pros: NFL Bloodlines, Excellent Senior Bowl/Combine Performance
Cons: Lack of NFL caliber competition/lacks focus and bites on pump fakes and play action. This can be coached and his measurables are attractive, I just don't know. This is risky IMO.

What do you guys think?
 
Good stuff. DRC is not on my radar for the 10th pick, but my order for those 5 is:

1-Ellis (no doubt)
2-Rivers
3-Jenkins
4-Talib
5-DRC
 

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