Rizzi, Rattler, '25, measured expectations (2 Viewers)

[Hubig]

The defense ate in the 2nd half and Rizzi panicked and went for 2 at the end which cost the game. In his press conference, it sounded like no matter what, he was going for it. That is being bad at situational football and that is why I hope Loomis or whoever doesn't make him the head coach.

 

[Merl]

The defense ate in the 2nd half and Rizzi panicked and went for 2 at the end which cost the game. In his press conference, it sounded like no matter what, he was going for it. That is being bad at situational football and that is why I hope Loomis or whoever doesn't make him the head coach.

During the final drive Deuce said on the radio that Rizzi had told him before the game that if it came down to a choice of going for 2 or going back into OT then he was going for 2.

 

[Hubig]

During the final drive Deuce said on the radio that Rizzi had told him before the game that if it came down to a choice of going for 2 or going back into OT then he was going for 2.

Yeah, its Dan Campbellesqe, you take the points, your defense had 8 sacks in the game and held the commanders to 6 points in the entire half.

 

[St. Geezy]

Rizzi had the team beating one division rival that isn't much better than us, 2 bad teams and losing to 2 good teams. We're likely only going to beat the Raiders going forward and end the season at 6-11. What exactly has he done different than DA other than optics and rah rah speeches to deserve to run it back with him next year? The team has been pretty awful lately and not much has really changed to be honest.

Carr isn't going anywhere in 2025 and he'll start if healthy unless Rattler completely smokes him in training camp next year. I completely agree on your point about both of the lines though. Nothing changes without improvement there.

In fairness, it takes more than a HC change and a few weeks of speeches for a team to look much different than it did before…and I don’t think that’s an indictment on Rizzi.

What I am trying to say is, the team culture under DA is something that can’t truly change until the off-season, no matter who the interim is, especially once you’re already in the funk of a 2-7 campaign.

You sort of become what your record says you are, and it is very hard to completely lift that cloud.

You can’t put a coach, even a great one, smack dab in the middle of a team’s losing campaign and expect him to work immediate miracles and completely change the fabric of the program that’s already been installed for years in just a few short weeks and with the exact same players and coaches the previous guy had signed/hired.

 

[Saint Greg]

Im
Not saying Rizzi is a great coach (not saying he’s a bad one either
Im saying that it makes more sense to do more remediation (bios the trenches) and wait a year to really look for a HC

You’re suggesting we sign him to a one year contract. Just find me another example of that. Doesn’t happen. Whoever we pick is getting a four year contract and will be expensive to move on from after one year. We need to make the right hire now.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

The defense ate in the 2nd half and Rizzi panicked and went for 2 at the end which cost the game. In his press conference, it sounded like no matter what, he was going for it. That is being bad at situational football and that is why I hope Loomis or whoever doesn't make him the head coach.

I’m not trying to argue for or against Rizzi here
But going for it makes sense
This team is way overstretched held together by vibes - no way you ask them to go to OT if you don’t need to
Plus AK on the bench and rookie QB? You go for the win if available

 

[Trey W.]

Because it’s potentially a bigger waste to bring someone in and install a new system when the foundational problem is line play
And none of the cap issues are going away next year
A new coach would be way too hamstrung next year

I understand your point, but if we do bring in a new HC & OC this off-season the players we have will have a year in that system which will have a huge carry over to year 2. Plus it will give the OC to be looking for where he needs help and who the scouts need to be looking for.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

Rizzi won't be the head coach and Rattler won't be QB1 unless the Saints decide to blow it up on the cheap.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

This shouldn't even be in consideration

 

[BBarnes]

Just run it back huh.

Yup, the exact mindset that got us in this position initially. Let's keep doing what we are doing. lol

 

[fishing4food]

I enjoy reading everyone's' comments without having a ridiculous mud slinging contest. My opinion is that the Loomis Model has broken the Saints. We're old, and maybe have about 5 young players worth building around. It's going to take a coach with great leadership skills and they must be a great talent evaluator to get things turned around. Not sure if that's Rizzi and I'm not sure yet if Rattler is the future QB. We're in bad shape.

 

[504gks]

We need to continue to build through the draft and slowly cut dead weight. While holding competition for many positions. Cam Jordan may be done, we will probably need a Demario Davis and Tyrann Matheu replacement soon. Nonetheless, dline, WR, Oline, and LB are my priorities in the draft.

So we need to draft a whole team- that wont take long...

 

[504gks]

I enjoy reading everyone's' comments without having a ridiculous mud slinging contest. My opinion is that the Loomis Model has broken the Saints. We're old, and maybe have about 5 young players worth building around. It's going to take a coach with great leadership skills and they must be a great talent evaluator to get things turned around. Not sure if that's Rizzi and I'm not sure yet if Rattler is the future QB. We're in bad shape.

which 5 are those that are under contract. Kool aide is very average. And Ruiz is a turnstile who they have been making excuses for since they drafted him, Olave is like an old Jaguar-looks good always broken-I would never give him a second contract. Breese is a keeper. The kicker and punter are good. We really dont have much. The Front office needs to go.

 

[Brennan77]

Save money by ditching Carr? No other team is going to trade for him and eat what the Saints owe him. Sorry, and this comes from a Carr supporter who admittedly thinks Rattler looks like he has potential to be the future … But that won’t be next year because of dead money. The Saints can’t afford it next year … … Now 2026, that could get interesting

Unless he's willing to take a pay cut...you're probably right.

 

[Elvis]

In fairness, it takes more than a HC change and a few weeks of speeches for a team to look much different than it did before…and I don’t think that’s an indictment on Rizzi.

What I am trying to say is, the team culture under DA is something that can’t truly change until the off-season, no matter who the interim is, especially once you’re already in the funk of a 2-7 campaign.

You sort of become what your record says you are, and it is very hard to completely lift that cloud.

You can’t put a coach, even a great one, smack dab in the middle of a team’s losing campaign and expect him to work immediate miracles and completely change the fabric of the program that’s already been installed for years in just a few short weeks and with the exact same players and coaches the previous guy had signed/hired.

We started the Rizzi era talking about what he’d need to do to land the job. i thought he’d need to show something different on the field and so far I don’t think he has. I believe he needed to be spectacular to avoid Black Monday. There are still a lot of the same mental mistakes that were present with DA. We were told there would be accountability but that seems to only mean for the punter because I’ve seen a lot of guys need some accountability that aren’t getting it.

The only area that I’ve seen any real difference is the change at D line coach which seems to have improved play there to a degree.

I wanted him to earn the job but I just don’t think he has or can. We’d need to see the team beat the Packers and Bucs to get there.