Saints Cap Moves: $33,780,933 cap space ….. 8 restructures, 3 extensions, 3 pay cut, 1 release [All current cap moves are in OP below line] (122 Viewers)

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Ross Jackson is currently speculating that the moves to gain more cap space point to moving Derek Carr this year.

 

[OzzieSaint]

Ross Jackson is currently speculating that the moves to gain more cap space point to moving Derek Carr this year.

 

[oysters]

Ross Jackson is currently speculating that the moves to gain more cap space point to moving Derek Carr this year.

Interesting take. I'd be surprise if that happens. Again, why do we want to suck next year? Rattler is not better than Carr and I'm not watching a 2-15 team. I was mad enough that I paid for NFL Sunday ticket last year and that monstrosity of a season.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Interesting take. I'd be surprise if that happens. Again, why do we want to suck next year? Rattler is not better than Carr and I'm not watching a 2-15 team. I was mad enough that I paid for NFL Sunday ticket last year and that monstrosity of a season.

I'd not be surprised it happens if they move up and get a QB. Could totally seem them work something out w/ the Titans for the #1 pick that includes a wink nod trade of Derek Carr after June 1

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Interesting take. I'd be surprise if that happens. Again, why do we want to suck next year? Rattler is not better than Carr and I'm not watching a 2-15 team. I was mad enough that I paid for NFL Sunday ticket last year and that monstrosity of a season.

I don’t think moving on from Carr automatically means we’ll suck. Kellen Moore would probably find his own QB, whether a FA vet (Wilson, Rodgers, Wentz, Flacco) or a 1st round QB. I think Moore and his passing game staff are still capable of producing 7 to 9 wins at minimum with a different QB in year 1.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I don’t think moving on from Carr automatically means we’ll suck. Kellen Moore would probably find his own QB, whether a FA vet (Wilson, Flacco, Rodgers) or a 1st round QB. I think Moore and his passing game staff are still capable of producing 7 to 9 wins at minimum with a different QB in year 1.

Accurate, Kellens entire Career has involved him getting production out of young QBs.

 

[Elvis]

Cap space at $27,329,433 right now after Chase’s new 2025 cap hit is updated from $2,272,000

Once those figures are on the team page, we’ll be over the 2026 cap with only 36 players under contract.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

It seems like the 49ers run their books that way, creating significantly more space than needed each year.

In 2023, they spent $75m in restructuring bonuses (plus $9m in option bonuses) and rolled $38m in cap forward.

In 2024, they spent $67m in restructuring bonuses (plus $21m in option bonuses) and rolled $50m in cap forward.

In both years, they could have still had plenty of room to operate without any restructuring bonuses.

Also noteworthy that whether they restructure a player is a hint on whether that player will be re-signed the following year. There were no restructures for these players with significant base salaries in 2024:

Charvarius Ward (Colts)
Talanoa Hufanga (Broncos)
Dre Greenlaw (Broncos)
Aaron Banks (Packers)

They seem to try to capture more of the cap hit in the current year if they don't expect the player to be with them the following year.

Didn’t realize those two Niners were Broncos now. Good pickups for them if they’re healthy.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Once those figures are on the team page, we’ll be over the 2026 cap with only 36 players under contract.

What does the 2026 cap look like if we manage to trade Carr after June 1 and absorb some of that hit this year?

 

[Merl]

We will spend about 12M on drafted rookie contracts with 8M being top 51. We could add a 6-8M OG. That leaves about 15M cap. Unspent cap rolls to next year. I can see us holding that so we walk into 2026 not being forced to restructure aging players. KMoore can then buy the players needed after a season.

Once the cut to 53 happens they have to account for all 53 rostered players they will also have cap hits for any players on IR or PUP. Then you have the practice squad to account for each week.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Accurate, Kellens entire Career has involved him getting production out of young QBs.

Moore moving on from Carr probably indicates that he knows he can get equivalent production with a different QB. He likely wouldn’t be relying on Rattler in his first year as HC. Wilson, Rodgers, Ward, Sanders, or Dart would be lateral, at bare minimum, to Carr right now.

He could probably get a couple more wins with Wilson or Rodgers. Sanders, Ward (obviously takes a monumental trade), Dart (maybe not at #9) would be current-Carr impact as rookies imo.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Moore moving on from Carr probably indicates that he knows he can get equivalent production with a different QB. He likely wouldn’t be relying on Rattler in his first year as HC. Wilson, Rodgers, Ward, Sanders, or Dart would be lateral, at bare minimum, to Carr right now.

He could probably get a couple more wins with Wilson or Rodgers. Sanders, Ward (obviously takes a monumental trade), Dart (maybe not at #9) would be current-Carr impact as rookies imo.

Well we have no definite confirmation that Moore is moving on from Carr, this is speculation...based on the moves being made.

NVM, i just opened the pod. He's talking about a 2026 departure, but that was always obvious. That's why i never understood people getting all hot and bothered at the restructure thinking it tied us to Carr for longer. It never did, that restructure was so we could add/keep players in 2025.

Edit: He gave 3 reasons.

1. To add more in FA
2. Interest in trade market
3. Preparing for a Carr divorce in 2026 OR a post- June 1 trade in 2025

He mentions 3 as the most likely but 1 and 2 are possibilities.

 

[Elvis]

Once those figures are on the team page, we’ll be over the 2026 cap with only 36 players under contract.

And there it is. With 10 voiding contracts, we have 36 players for 2026 and already $4 million over the cap.

 

[Rexman100]

Ross Jackson is currently speculating that the moves to gain more cap space point to moving Derek Carr this year.

the only thing that makes me think there may be something to Ross's speculation of Carr being traded, is the silence from DC4 this off season. its deafening. Just heard Mike Detillier, he said the same thing. THERE IS SOMETHING WITH THE SILENCE

 

[oysters]

I don’t think moving on from Carr automatically means we’ll suck. Kellen Moore would probably find his own QB, whether a FA vet (Wilson, Flacco, Rodgers) or a 1st round QB. I think Moore and his passing game staff are still capable of producing 7 to 9 wins at minimum with a different QB in year 1.

With what money though? If we release Carr then that's basically it. May Flacco on a close to vet minimum deal.