Saints Cap Moves: $15,887,993 cap space ….7 restructures, 1 extension, 1 release (306 Viewers)

[No2DC]

The Saints hater brigade is already starting to get impatient and chirp, with Michael Thomas joining in on the “fun.”

I don't follow the team on Twitter, so when people say why there is so much hate, I don't get it. For the record, I don't see hate on the board I see criticism and doubt about certain players.
This is not directed as you, I just see people throwing the word hate on the board.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

I don't give a damn about PFF grades.

Players and coaches clown that publication.

So you think he’s a good run stopper. Got it I know where you stand now.

 

[St. Geezy]

I don't follow the team on Twitter, so when people say why there is so much hate, I don't get it. For the record, I don't see hate on the board I see criticism and doubt about certain players.
This is not directed as you, I just see people throwing the word hate on the board.

Oh it’s bad over there, like irrational hate and you’ll get cursed out if you say anything to the contrary. It’s like universal hate.

It’s tame here, but I think that has more to do with the TOS and general vibe here than anything.

Over there, anything goes, there’s no fear of being banned, and people let loose.

 

[St. Geezy]

So you think he’s a good run stopper. Got it I know where you stand now.

He’s decent. A solid, capable body to have in your rotation and worth bringing in to compete for a job, with a fairly inexpensive 1 year extension as earned security.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The old staff saw it, the new staff sees it.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

He’s decent. A solid, capable body to have in your rotation and worth bringing in to compete for a job, with a fairly inexpensive 1 year extension as earned security.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The old staff saw it, the new staff sees it.

The new staff saw the contract they were given lol anyone with eyeballs can see he’s absolute trash in the run game.

 

[St. Geezy]

The new staff saw the contract they were given lol anyone with eyeballs can see he’s absolute trash in the run game.

“Trash” two gap run-stuffers typically don’t get contract extensions to be two gap run stuffers. They’re cut or allowed to walk.

Do you know what a two gapper DT is?

EDIT: I saved you the trouble and googled it for you. Read thoroughly.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

I hope Godchaux and whomever we hopefully end up drafting on DL will relegate Saunders and Shepard to their rightful roles as rotation/depth guys.

They are better off as veteran depth that can contribute and not starters.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

“Trash” two gap run-stuffers typically don’t get contract extensions to be two gap run stuffers. They’re cut or allowed to walk.

He got a 1 year extension because of the cap situation we’re in. If you read the grades you said were trash, he actually graded above average in pass rush, so yea i can understand what they see. But where we are hurting the most is run d our DTs are horrible in that regard.

 

[St. Geezy]

He got a 1 year extension because of the cap situation we’re in. If you read the grades you said were trash, he actually graded above average in pass rush, so yea i can understand what they see. But where we are hurting the most is run d our DTs are horrible in that regard.

TJ Lang: Pro Football Focus Is "Absolute Garbage"

Apparently, most NFL players feel the same way.

www.cbsnews.com

Those are just a few examples.

I meant, how in the world is an external observer grading game film? It’s the most absurd concept ever.

Don’t put much stock into that stuff.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

TJ Lang: Pro Football Focus Is "Absolute Garbage"

Apparently, most NFL players feel the same way.

www.cbsnews.com

Those are just a few examples.

I meant, how in the world is an external observer grading game film? It’s the most absurd concept ever.

If you want to tell me comparing two similar players via their PFF grade I totally understand and wouldn’t even present that as an argument. But if you’re saying that someone who ranked 207 out of 219 actually ranks significantly higher and is more average player, I’m not buying it.

 

[St. Geezy]

If you want to tell me comparing two similar players via their PFF grade I totally understand and wouldn’t even present that as an argument. But if you’re saying that someone who ranked 207 out of 219 actually ranks significantly higher and is more average player, I’m not buying it.

So you think PFF knows Nathan Shephard’s assignments and is grading him on how well he occupies his responsibilities for run fits?

If our coaches thought he was essentially the worst DT in the league according to the PFF grade you hold as Bible, do you really think we’d have kept him on the team, much less given him an extension?

We could have just cut him for cap savings. He was one of the few guys where we could have just shed his dollars, but we opted not to and instead in fact want to hold onto him even longer.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

So you think PFF knows Nathan Shephard’s assignments and is grading him on how well he occupies his responsibilities for run fits?

If our coaches thought he was essentially the worst DT in the league according to the PFF grade you hold as Bible, do you really think we’d have kept him on the team, much less given him an extension?

We could have just cut him for cap savings. He was one of the few guys where we could have just shed his dollars, but we opted not to and instead in fact want to hold onto him even longer.

You can argue what his number ranking should be all you want but I think they know enough to know if he’s top of the league, middle of the league, or bottom of the league.

The grade didn’t say he was worst in the league lol he overall grade was 188/219 so below average. Run defense was the biggest issue and look at the team. We were one of if not the worst run d last year and collectively last 2-3 years we’ve been terrible. Bresee, Saunders, Shepard all cannot stop the run. Hence why we traded for Godchuax which stoping the run is the only reason he’s in the NFL. If our coaches loved our production in that area no trade would have been made.

 

[soggymoss84]

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Right that part makes sense but it’s still an extension and he’s still on the team when honestly I thought he’d be straight cut. Havent really seen much good play out of him since he’s been here.

True dat and I get it. I don’t like him or Saunders on the d line.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

True dat and I get it. I don’t like him or Saunders on the d line.

If we had to choose one between the 2 I thought we would have picked Saunders. Wonder if he’s on the outs now.