Saints expected to be very interested in former Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [ Rapoport: Interview to be early next week] (147 Viewers)

[MikeyF]

Good coach. Not a fan. If it were a choice between him and Gruden, I would go with Gruden. I love Gruden's passion and positivity for the game. McCarthy just seems perceptually grumpy and negative.

I doubt Gruden will ever be a HC in the NFL again because of the racial nature of his email debacle...

 

[Big_L]

He was 49-35 in Dallas and the played in 4 playoff games over 5 years. That is a huge upgrade from DA who was 18-25 with no playoff games.

Hard to argue the logic.

 

[Covington Saint]

You'd think this decision comes down to McCarthy, Glenn, or Joe Brady. Does Glenn or Brady knock loomis' socks off?

 

[BBarnes]

Fun fact - Mike McCarthy has had only five losing seasons in his 18 year head coaching career…

2008: GB 6-10
2017: GB 7-9
2018: GB 4-7-1 (fired)
2020: DAL 6-10
2024: DAL 7-10

In 2017, his starting QB Aaron Rodgers missed significant time due to injury, playing in only 7 games.

In each of this two losing seasons in Dallas, 2020 and 2024, his starting QB Dak Prescott missed significant time, playing in only 5 games in ‘20 and 8 games in ‘24.

So, 18 seasons, 5 losing seasons, 3 of which involved him not having his starting QB for more than half of the season.

This guy is a flat-out winner, knows how to build a program, and I want him to be our head coach.

He has moved up to number one on my chart, which means nothing, I know. LOL

The guy wins. I understand he has not won more than 1 championship, but neither has SP who had a top 5 QB for years. I want a coach who knows how to build and shape and organization and implement a plan that leads to getting us to the dance every year with a chance. This organization needs consistency and Mike would bring that no questions asked.

 

[Rexman100]

You'd think this decision comes down to McCarthy, Glenn, or Joe Brady. Does Glenn or Brady knock loomis' socks off?

None of the candidates will surprise Loomis, he’s knows them all already.

You know it had to be really tough being a coach in Dallas if Mike Mcarthy chooses the Saints, considering the complete rebuild that’s needed. We’d be lucky to have him. I consider him a coach that could compete against Sean Payton and the other top coaches, at their best. And that’s the success target we should be aiming. An unknown with no connections coaching a team with no Qb1 and an old roster sounds like a disaster.

 

[Dastheat_9]

I'm not saying don't start making those cuts and getting the cap in order now. I'm saying that you're not buying much time or caps space by cutting Carr now or even post June 1st. I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze. I do think that a McCarthy/Zimmer led staff may want to keep Carr one more season and see what they can do with him and make a decision after next season.

At that point they'll have more flexibility and can pursue a QB in the draft next year.

He's the largest cap number, but that's true of most starting QBs in the league.

Carr doesn't play defense, and the defense wasn't very good in key situations the last 2 years. That's just a fact. Carr isn't without his faults, but the team was a donut without him. So, he makes the team better. By enough to justify keeping him? I dunno. But he's been scapegoated by too many fans. He deserves criticism, but it's a team game and he was hardly the main problem the last 2 seasons.

I put a larger part of the blame for poor performance on coaching than anything else, because is generally true. I mean, Payton turning Denver around is exhibit A.

2nd down and 3. Carr throws it 30 yards for a low percentage pass. 3rd down and ten. Carr checks it down for a three yard pass. I am still pissed at the hospital balls he has thrown. I hate how his percentage goes up when we are losing in the fourth quarter. Eric McCoy almost beat the breaks off of him last year because he cannot decipher protection. Then blamed his Offensive line. When he hung Olave out last year when he was not even in the progression. I knew then I hated this dude. Then he is smug. Go look at the tape. He is not taking a pay cut. He is not serious. McCarthy will bring very respectable Defensive players. He will bring Cooper Rush over from Dallas for 3-5 Million Dollars. He will rebuild it. The idea of Derek Carr staying here makes me sick to my stomach. Get out of Salary Cap hell. Go get Arch next year

 

[Dastheat_9]

Things I do not like about Glenn. Great coach. Everyone respects him and loves him. He is from the DA system. He was a Cornerback. We are going to be playing man to man all the time. Which means the defenses back will be to these mobile QB's. Every third down and ten. There will be a scramble for a first down. You have to play zone sometimes. You have to incorporate zone blitzes. There are times for all Defensive Coverages. I am so tired of QBs scrambling for first downs on us. These blitzes where we have big Defensive ends falling into coverage against Tight ends, and backs destroys my life. Then people ask " Why do we have so many pass interference penalties?" We play our corners on islands. We moved an outside corner to defend a slot receiver.

 

[HouseCall]

Things I do not like about Glenn. Great coach. Everyone respects him and loves him. He is from the DA system. He was a Cornerback. We are going to be playing man to man all the time. Which means the defenses back will be to these mobile QB's. Every third down and ten. There will be a scramble for a first down. You have to play zone sometimes. You have to incorporate zone blitzes. There are times for all Defensive Coverages. I am so tired of QBs scrambling for first downs on us. These blitzes where we have big Defensive ends falling into coverage against Tight ends, and backs destroys my life. Then people ask " Why do we have so many pass interference penalties?" We play our corners on islands. We moved an outside corner to defend a slot receiver.

I’m very curious to see what kind of defense he comes up with for JD. It’ll be a tough test for sure.

But to your broader point, I think a ton of defenses are struggling to stop mobile QBs because the offenses are still evolving into the hybrid model and have a small step on the defensive adjustments league-wide.

There have been teams with hybrid QBs over the years but it was always somewhat the exception and not the rule, now the majority of teams are trying to implement red-option type plays and leaning on QBs who can pass but also have the wheels to get yards when needed.

Watching teams like Washington struggle to get to Baker Mayfield on Sunday and seeing him extend drives with his legs was an eye-opener. Washington’s defense faces Jayden Daniels every day in practice and didn’t have an advantage on stopping Mayfield’s scrambles.

It was interesting.

 

[Elvis]

He has moved up to number one on my chart, which means nothing, I know. LOL

The guy wins. I understand he has not won more than 1 championship, but neither has SP who had a top 5 QB for years. I want a coach who knows how to build and shape and organization and implement a plan that leads to getting us to the dance every year with a chance. This organization needs consistency and Mike would bring that no questions asked.

More than one championship is an impossible bar. The only current NFL head coach that has more than one is Andy Reid. It's not like those guys grow on trees.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

But to your broader point, I think a ton of defenses are struggling to stop mobile QBs because the offenses are still evolving into the hybrid model and have a small step on the defensive adjustments league-wide.

This. You need speedy linebackers in a zone (mostly) to prevent QB scrambles. Some teams are getting away with it with speedy, well sized safeties not dropping back playing more towards the LOS like Hamilton for the Ravens. This is partly why Cooper for the Packers is having such a good year. It's hard to scramble against him.

 

[RaginSaint93]

Looks like the Bears got first dibs. Remember they requested to interview him before but Jerry declined. They can legally interview him now.

 

[Saildawg]

Not seeing that sorry, as recently as 2023 they were first in points scored in the NFL

Facts and such

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

The reaction to a McCarthy hiring will be something. I suspect that a widely held opinion in Green Bay is that the Packers letting McCarthy go and hiring LaFleur was the best thing that happened to the Packers in years and that a popular sentiment in Dallas is that McCarthy was a mistake.

I personally am not thrilled with any of the head coach prospects being discussed. Vrabel was always going to New England, and Ben Johnson is not even considering us. Unless we go the college route, I am resigned to Glenn, though at this moment I would not be upset with Rizzi. The next two years are going to be bad--especially if we continue to doing what we have been doing and chase mediocrity.

Total opinion--but I believe it true. For several reasons--philosophy with drafting and the salary cap, success without Payton, age--there is not another NFL team that would hire Loomis as its general manager were he unemployed. He has close-relative status with Gayle--are there persons in his private life personally closer to her than Lauscha, Loomis and Bensel?--so he will decide when he leaves.

 

[cdogg]

Looks like the Bears got first dibs. Remember they requested to interview him before but Jerry declined. They can legally interview him now.

Read his next tweet.

New Orleans will indeed have the hiring edge, because they will move quicker in this process.

 

[St. Geezy]

Fun fact - Mike McCarthy has had only five losing seasons in his 18 year head coaching career…

2008: GB 6-10
2017: GB 7-9
2018: GB 4-7-1 (fired)
2020: DAL 6-10
2024: DAL 7-10

In 2017, his starting QB Aaron Rodgers missed significant time due to injury, playing in only 7 games.

In each of this two losing seasons in Dallas, 2020 and 2024, his starting QB Dak Prescott missed significant time, playing in only 5 games in ‘20 and 8 games in ‘24.

So, 18 seasons, 5 losing seasons, 3 of which involved him not having his starting QB for more than half of the season.

This guy is a flat-out winner, knows how to build a program, and I want him to be our head coach.

More fun facts…from 2006 to now, Mike McCarthy and Sean Payton have eached coached the same number of seasons (18) and we know they each own 1 Super Bowl title in the span, however in terms of number of double-digit win seasons, Payton has 9, while McCarthy has had 11.

EDIT: Payton has coached one less season, however the point of the comp study remains.