Shooter incident at elementary school in Uvalde, Texas - 19 children and 2 adults dead (2 Viewers)

 
No disagreeing with your overall sentiment, but I think one small step in the right direction would be to stop the knee-jerk "evil" characterizations whenever a young person does someTHING that is evil. That kid, in all likelihood, is not "evil" -- he is an almost statistically inevitable product of the culture in this country of 300 million people.

An example to highlight what I mean: Columbine. Eric Harris was the closest to meeting the characterization of "evil" if you want to consider psychopathy as being evil. Even then, the culture surrounding him played a big part in his doing what he did. Klebold, on the other hand, is much closer to what many of these young killers are...and inherent "evilness" is not their problem.

One can say that thiis distinction is not meaningful, but I disagree. Calling something "evil" gives our society an easy bogeyman to blame rather than doing something difficult and constructive to stop it from happening.

 
Now some real questions need to be answered if this is true...

The Washington Post reports a 10-minute call was placed from Marcee Gray’s phone to the school at 9:50 a.m. Police were notified of the shooting around 10:20 that morning, CNN previously reported.

According to the Post, Brown has a shared phone plan with the family which allowed her to see a log of the calls made by her sister.

 
Colin Gray, the father of Apalachee High School shooting suspect Colt Gray, has filed a motion to be separated from the other inmates in jail after getting an “incalculable number of threats.”

Gray is accused of giving his son an AR-15-style firearm as a Christmas gift last year, months after the FBI interviewed the father and son over threats he allegedly made online about school shootings.

That gun was allegedly used in the attack at the Georgia school on September 4 that killed two students and two teachers.


Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter and is being held without bond at the Barrow County Detention Center.

In the motion 11Alive obtained from the Superior Court of Barrow County, Gray’s attorneys have asked for him to be separated from the general population for safety reasons.……

 
Colin Gray, the father of Apalachee High School shooting suspect Colt Gray, has filed a motion to be separated from the other inmates in jail after getting an “incalculable number of threats.”

Gray is accused of giving his son an AR-15-style firearm as a Christmas gift last year, months after the FBI interviewed the father and son over threats he allegedly made online about school shootings.

That gun was allegedly used in the attack at the Georgia school on September 4 that killed two students and two teachers.


Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter and is being held without bond at the Barrow County Detention Center.

In the motion 11Alive obtained from the Superior Court of Barrow County, Gray’s attorneys have asked for him to be separated from the general population for safety reasons.……

I say, keep him safe until after conviction/sentencing. Then it's GenPop.
 
Colin Gray, the father of Apalachee High School shooting suspect Colt Gray, has filed a motion to be separated from the other inmates in jail after getting an “incalculable number of threats.”

Gray is accused of giving his son an AR-15-style firearm as a Christmas gift last year, months after the FBI interviewed the father and son over threats he allegedly made online about school shootings.

That gun was allegedly used in the attack at the Georgia school on September 4 that killed two students and two teachers.


Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter and is being held without bond at the Barrow County Detention Center.

In the motion 11Alive obtained from the Superior Court of Barrow County, Gray’s attorneys have asked for him to be separated from the general population for safety reasons.……

Wonder if he thinks it would be a good idea to give those other inmates guns
 
guess this can go here

also should we have a separate general gun control/gun violence thread instead of just adding to this one?
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An 11-year-old boy was punished this month for reporting a classmate for having a bullet at school because, according to administrators, he waited too long to do so.

School officials at St. John the Apostle Catholic School in Virginia Beach suspended a sixth grader for 1½ days for waiting about two hours to report a bullet his friend had shown him, according to Tim Anderson, a lawyer representing the boy and his mother Rachel Wigand.

News of the boy’s punishment led last week to threats of violence against St. John’s, a two-day closure of the Catholic School and the arrest of a man in North Carolina accused of making the threats, all while administrators tried to reassure parents who might find the whirlwind “deeply unsettling.”

School officials defended the punishment, saying they held the boy accountable for the kind of delay that could have catastrophic consequences if not relayed to adults, citing the recent school shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga., that killed four and injured nine. Anderson contended that punishing the boy for “doing the right thing” makes the school less safe by disincentivizing students from coming forward.

“The message it sends is, instead of ‘See something, say something,’ the kids are better off not saying anything,” Anderson said, adding that “it’s creating a more dangerous environment.”

The Catholic Diocese of Richmond, of which St. John’s is a part, defended punishing the boy.

“The school’s culture of safety requires that students and adults alike report potential threats as quickly as they are made aware of them; in a real emergency, gaps in reporting time — especially hours-long gaps — could have major consequences for school safety,” the diocese said in a statement.

On the morning of Sept. 5, Wigand’s son’s class prepared to take a standardized test by moving desks into a different formation, Anderson said, and while doing so, a classmate showed him a bullet. Wigand said the other boy was showing it off after finding it in his parents’ coin jar, and her son didn’t perceive it as a threat.

Even though he was shocked, he decided to wait until he could report the bullet anonymously, Wigand said. So he took the standardized math test for the next 1½ hours, then attended an art class which the boy with the bullet was also taking.

A fire drill followed, during which Wigand’s son went to interim principal Jennifer Davey to tell her about the bullet, Anderson said. Police came to the school, searched the other boy’s bag and found it, he added.

The principal commended Wigan’s son but also told him he was being suspended for two days because he hadn’t made the report immediately, Anderson said. The other boy was suspended for the same amount of time, he added.

Wigand said that when her son had told her why he’d been suspended, she suspected he wasn’t telling her everything and interrogated him.

“There’s no way somebody would suspend you for reporting something,” she said, describing her reaction at the time. “I couldn’t believe it.”

But Wigand confirmed what her son had told her when she spoke to the principal that night at a school open house. She reviewed the student handbook, found nothing about a requirement to report anything other than sexual harassment and pointed that out to school officials, Anderson said. The principal was nevertheless “adamant” that her son be punished, the lawyer said.............


 
The mother of the Georgia teen accused of killing four people in a school shooting earlier this month has been indicted for allegedly taping her 73-year-old mother to a chair.

Marcee Gray, 43, allegedly taped Deborah Polhamus to a chair, stole her phone, and damaged her house during the November 3, 2023 incident, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

Gray is the mother of Colt Gray, 14, who is charged with murder for allegedly opening fire on September 4 at Apalachee High School.


Gray’s ex-husband and Colt’s father Colin Gray has also been charged in connection with the shooting for allegedly giving his son access to the rifle used in the massacre.

The November confrontation between Gray and her mother began when Polhamus refused to go to Barrow County with Gray to confront her ex-husband, according to police.

“Marcee became upset and told Deborah that she was making her go with her because she was going to kill her ex,” the incident report, obtained by the AJC, reads.

“Deborah stated she refused to go and Marcee threw her up against the wall causing a cut on her left wrist. Marcee stated that since Deborah wasn’t going she was going to tie her to a chair and take her phone so she wouldn’t call anyone.”

The senior spent nearly 24 hours taped to the chair, only being discovered when another of her daughters became concerned she couldn’t reach the 73-year-old and sent someone to check on her at her home in Ben Hill County.…….

 
The mother of the Georgia teen accused of killing four people in a school shooting earlier this month has been indicted for allegedly taping her 73-year-old mother to a chair.

Marcee Gray, 43, allegedly taped Deborah Polhamus to a chair, stole her phone, and damaged her house during the November 3, 2023 incident, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

Gray is the mother of Colt Gray, 14, who is charged with murder for allegedly opening fire on September 4 at Apalachee High School.


Gray’s ex-husband and Colt’s father Colin Gray has also been charged in connection with the shooting for allegedly giving his son access to the rifle used in the massacre.

The November confrontation between Gray and her mother began when Polhamus refused to go to Barrow County with Gray to confront her ex-husband, according to police.

“Marcee became upset and told Deborah that she was making her go with her because she was going to kill her ex,” the incident report, obtained by the AJC, reads.

“Deborah stated she refused to go and Marcee threw her up against the wall causing a cut on her left wrist. Marcee stated that since Deborah wasn’t going she was going to tie her to a chair and take her phone so she wouldn’t call anyone.”

The senior spent nearly 24 hours taped to the chair, only being discovered when another of her daughters became concerned she couldn’t reach the 73-year-old and sent someone to check on her at her home in Ben Hill County.…….

With those two as parents, that kid had no chance for a normal childhood.
 

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