Taysom Hill passing concepts question. (1 Viewer)

[Trey W.]

I would love to see Taysom be the starting QB and lead this team for the next 5-8 years and I'm not saying he can't. From what he showed on the field last season is that the game is too fast for him at QB (in a strictly passer role). Now if Payton were to modify his offense like what Baltimore did for Jackson then I can see Taysom doing very well. But in Payton's current offense where the QB has to read the defense and utilize the entire field then Taysom will not do well. I'm sure in his time last season his main focus was not messing up and turning the ball over which made him extremely hesitant and late on his reads.

 

[BarBar]

I would love to see Taysom be the starting QB and lead this team for the next 5-8 years and I'm not saying he can't. From what he showed on the field last season is that the game is too fast for him at QB (in a strictly passer role). Now if Payton were to modify his offense like what Baltimore did for Jackson then I can see Taysom doing very well. But in Payton's current offense where the QB has to read the defense and utilize the entire field then Taysom will not do well. I'm sure in his time last season his main focus was not messing up and turning the ball over which made him extremely hesitant and late on his reads.

I think this is the main decision that SP will have to make. Is the extra ability of being a good runner enough to mask the lesser traits like getting through reads across the entire field? Perhaps it is and SP will enjoy creating a scheme that works for TH skillset.

To answer the OP there is no video of this that I have ever seen. TH struggled mightily to get through his reads in his starts last year and that is the only evidence that we have so far.

 

[St4ever]

CSP's offense is a full field offense and considered by many coaches and players to be the most complicated in the NFL. Really hard to judge Hill for being limited to half field reads considering CSP's offense is so complex that offensive players don't suffer from the "sophomore slump" due to it taking a full season for them to get a handle on just the base concepts.

If Hill comes out in preseason and Payton keeps him limited to half-field reads, then yes it is time to sound the alarms. But for now it may be more likely that the half-field reads last season were due to a lack of understanding of offensive concepts as a full time QB for Hill than incompetence.

I am curious if CSP’s full field offense was shortened last year due to DB’s lack of a long ball game Also.

 

[Dome50]

A few here have said Hill struggled with his reads or that his play last year "tells us everything we need to know." Just interested, and not saying you are wrong, but what exactly is that based off of? Outside of the Denver start (which was a weird game plan), Hill completed over 70% of his passes for over 230 yards a game and didn't throw a bunch of picks. I haven't gone back and watched those games but don't remember him struggling and thought he played pretty well in fact. What about those starts tells you he isn't, or cannot be the quarterback of the future? I get that Payton would put in place the best game plan to help him succeed, but he does that for every player. I also didn't get all the way through that Kurt Warner break down, is there tape of Hill missing wide open receivers? I know stats aren't everything but Hill's stats last season showed he was pretty efficient.

 

[Judge_Smails]

A few here have said Hill struggled with his reads or that his play last year "tells us everything we need to know." Just interested, and not saying you are wrong, but what exactly is that based off of? Outside of the Denver start (which was a weird game plan), Hill completed over 70% of his passes for over 230 yards a game and didn't throw a bunch of picks. I haven't gone back and watched those games but don't remember him struggling and thought he played pretty well in fact. What about those starts tells you he isn't, or cannot be the quarterback of the future? I get that Payton would put in place the best game plan to help him succeed, but he does that for every player. I also didn't get all the way through that Kurt Warner break down, is there tape of Hill missing wide open receivers? I know stats aren't everything but Hill's stats last season showed he was pretty efficient.

They are saying that Hill didn't/couldn't/can't read the whole field, like most NFL QBs do. That means once he drops back to pass and reveals which side of the field his read is on, the defense knows that he is only throwing to that side. They can then roll coverage that way and likely blitz him from the other side. In addition to making it easier to defend him as a passing quarterback, it also makes his running ability as a QB less effective.

I think we have to see what the playcalling and production looks like when he is at QB in the preseason to see if this has been fixed. For the benefit of the whole team, we should all hope that it has.